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CA: Promises of casino revenue fail to pan out for state
Riverside Press-Enterprise ^ | 7/27/08 | Michelle DeArmond and Jim Miler

Posted on 07/27/2008 8:46:55 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 07/27/2008 8:46:56 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

I didn’t vote for this last round of casino expansions. When I found out the tribes were dumping huge bucks into efforts to influence what takes place in Sacramento, it really soured me on the whole casino deal.

Initially I had wanted a better life for the Indians on the reservations. I just hadn’t planned on them trying to control Sacramento with those funds.


2 posted on 07/27/2008 8:54:35 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I'm a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 1, who won't be voting for McCain.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The biggest revenue for Casinos goes to their owners. Suprise. How about a novel idea like CUTTING SPENDING for a change? We have absolute dopes running this country.


3 posted on 07/27/2008 8:54:44 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (No mas Juan "Traitor Rat" McAmnesty)
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To: NormsRevenge
Gov. Schwarzenegger ... promised

Well there's yer problem right there.

4 posted on 07/27/2008 8:56:53 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The road to hell is paved with the stones of pragmatism.)
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To: NormsRevenge

People have less disposable income right now for all forms of entertainment, including gambling. Plus most are in pretty remote locations, and the cost of gas is hurting them. Some are offering free gas or gambling credits to get people to come.


5 posted on 07/27/2008 9:00:16 AM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Initially I had wanted a better life for the Indians on the reservations.

Unfortunately you are correct that the primary beneficiaries of Tribal Gaming are politicians who receive tremendous amounts of cash to sell little communities like mine down the river.

Although there are an estimated 12,000-15,000 Chumash descendants, only 150 receive money from the Chumash Casino. The people who get the checks are the ones who were getting free cheese on the reservation in the 1980s. Most Chumash descendants, like Irish immigrants, assimilated into the mainstream and prospered in very occupations. These people, the hard working Chumash descendants, get nothing.

The people who lived on the reservation in Santa Barbara County were primarily the dead-beats and losers. Now they are still dead-beats and losers but they each get about $500,000 a year for being 25% 'Chumash' and $1,000,000 if they are 50% 'Chumash'. Of course there is no DNA test involved...only the vote of the 'Tribal Council' to determine who is Chumash. Interestingly, the Tribal Council is made up of people primarily from a single family of former free cheese recipients.

The only people benefiting from the Chumash Casino are the 150 check recipients, politicians and coke dealers. The Chumash Casino is a blight on the beautiful Santa Ynez Valley.

6 posted on 07/27/2008 9:07:28 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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People have less disposable income right now for all forms of entertainment, including gambling.

This leaves only the least desirable customers, the desperate losers, who come here on a bus, or crowded into old, unsafe autos, hoping to change their luck. We live on the street leading to the Casino and it is a daily parade of criminals into our otherwise lovely little valley.

7 posted on 07/27/2008 9:09:55 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: NormsRevenge
Gov. Schwarzenegger and other government officials promised that the tribes would help balance the state's troubled budget with an influx of gambling dollars. The casino riches would help protect state funding for schools, police and fire departments, health care and roads, the tribes and their supporters said.

This is what they said about taxes, bonds, the lottery, casinos, etc. What next? Carbon Credits?

8 posted on 07/27/2008 9:12:57 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Senator McCain, what did GWB promise you back in 2000? And you believed him? BWAHAAAAA!)
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To: Zevonismymuse

Here in Bangor Maine, the new “racino” has penny and nickle slots. A sure sign of the type of clientel the casino hopes to attract.


9 posted on 07/27/2008 9:16:34 AM PDT by DeusExMachina05 (I will not go into Dhimmitude quietly.)
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To: VRWC For Truth

We ARE truly doomed if the dumbest among us are running things......


10 posted on 07/27/2008 9:23:59 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance......)
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To: NormsRevenge
The libs running CA want to get everything, but give nothing. When will they realize there is no free lunch. They tax and spend, tax and spend, ...on and on, while refusing to drill, build refineries or utilities. They slap the citizens in the name of global warming, environmentalism, and put the horned snail above humans, the indigent humans above the working, and then add more taxes when nothing seems to work.

Sadly, all the hard working Californians are going to have to leave and let the place sink. I don't see any possibility of waking up Hollywood and Sacramento to the realities of life.

vaudine

11 posted on 07/27/2008 9:32:31 AM PDT by vaudine (RO)
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To: Zevonismymuse
We live on the street leading to the Casino

You should set-up a stand that sells 'lucky charms' (not the cereal).

12 posted on 07/27/2008 9:34:26 AM PDT by budwiesest (Tribes are cool, but individualism is the rule.)
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To: budwiesest
"You should set-up a stand that sells 'lucky charms'"

Those folks who play LOTTO would buy'em....

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13 posted on 07/27/2008 9:45:37 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: DeusExMachina05
Here in Bangor Maine, the new “racino” has penny and nickle slots. A sure sign of the type of clientel the casino hopes to attract.

I don't think most people realize the bottom of the barrel types that patronize Indian Casinos. Lots of Government checks get spent in these places.

14 posted on 07/27/2008 9:52:02 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: budwiesest
You should set-up a stand that sells 'lucky charms' (not the cereal).

The last thing I want is a 1989 Chevette with bald tires and 5 illegal aliens stopping at my house.

15 posted on 07/27/2008 9:53:43 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: NormsRevenge
Schwarzenegger denied that he and other supporters oversold the deals.

ROFL!

Schwarzenegger has oversold every single thing he has ever promoted, including himself as a "leader."

16 posted on 07/27/2008 10:32:35 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Hype Hype Hype !

sadly, One can not govern on Q factor alone... not to mention having a Kennedy in each ear ..


17 posted on 07/27/2008 10:36:56 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: Zevonismymuse

I accidentally pulled into an Indian Casino parking lot a few years ago. I saw 100% low life’s, rolling unsteadily through the dirt lot in a simulanteously enebriated and extremely angry condition; All the more surprising, since it was only 9 in morning!

I was lucky to get out alive.


18 posted on 07/27/2008 10:45:42 AM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: DeusExMachina05; All
Hey, don't knock penny and nickle slots, which allow nearly everyone to play. This lady here just returned from Vegas. I won $500 on penny slot on a $20 bill. I also won another $200 on a $20 bill on a penny slot. My husband played for 3-1/2 hours on $20 bill as well. We played on Vegas’ money. I've been to an Indian casino in NY. The people that I saw there were just like me. Why doesn't everyone here just admit they don't like gambling. I, myself, enjoy the entertainment.
19 posted on 07/27/2008 10:53:07 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Zevonismymuse

can you post here where you are getting all of your “facts”?


20 posted on 07/27/2008 11:10:02 AM PDT by fish hawk
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