IDF vets train NY Jewish paramilitaries

The Jerusalem Post ^ | July 25, 2008 | HAVIV RETTIG

[rmlew]

Hitler and the Nazis did not sprout up like antisemetic mushrooms one day. As the opposing bolshevics were as genocidal as the tsars, so were the nazis a reaction to the bolshevics.
Much of this has to do with bad historical understanding on the part of the Germans.
It was the German High Command, including the future Nazi ally Luddendorf, who funded and transported the Bolsheviks into Russia in 1917.
Hitler's friends and the decrepit Junkers created the USSR, but found it convenient to blame Jews, when Frankenstein's monster came at them.

And nazi-communist collusion continued. They were quasi-allies even in the 1930's when they were opponents. They worked together to destroy democracies, each hoping to win in the end. Of course we all know the Moltov-Ribbentrop pact, but how many remember the communist subversion of allied war machines in 1940, which, as much as the treason of Quisling in Norway, helped the Nazis take most of Europe.

[Levante]

Oh, I don’t.

I hope nothing happens. But Jews in NY have often been the victims of directed violence, thanks in part to losers like Farrakhan and Sharpton.

[MeanWestTexan]

Your post begins with a lie and a false light.

I understand some people have problems with Jews.

We're generally annoying (especially those seen on TV), often condescending (or seemingly so), sometimes a little too tricky, can be really rude, and simultaneously successful, smart, and just generally seem to get ahead.

People have been complaining about that since the first Joshua.

That said, for whatever reason (my hunch is theological, but interpersonal can be blamed, too, if you want), people have been trying to kill us en masse for nigh 3,500 years or so.

It gets old.

Ergo, we take countermeasures.

[ExpatGator]

It looks like sir spamalot has been banned or suspended. Good riddance to bad trash.

[papertyger]

Good riddance to bad trash.

Not at all!

Observing the way FReepers dealt with such naked equivocation (in the rhetorical sense) has been most instructive.

There is much to think about, here.

[abercrombie_guy_38]

Nothing but facts? LOL. You inferred someone was anti-semetic because they didn’t like the idea put forth in this article. That is very lib-like.

[ExpatGator]

He misrepresented the facts of the article. I did not initially infer anti-semitism. It was only after his vociferous defense of his claims, via name calling and inflammatory accusations (such as those aimed at me), that I concluded that it could only be Jew-hate clouding his judgment.

I challenge you to find one non-factual crumb in my posts. Heck, I even identified myself by name and disclosed my business in this thread. Any of you folks who took umbrage at this article and sided with spamalot got the testicular fortitude to do that? Thought not.

Your defense of spamalot is noble, but misguided. Go find another windmill to tilt at.

[ExpatGator]

Yeah, I reckon you are right. He did get pummeled with the logic stick, and from all sides.

[papertyger]

LOL. You inferred someone was anti-semetic because ...

That's a rather "strained" recitation of the events here.

Inferring an IDF paramilitary organ out of this report, along with attendant accusations of "treason" and "Israel-first"ism, is not so much the expression of an "idea" as the action of a provocateur.

[papertyger]

He did get pummeled with the logic stick, and from all sides.

To the contrary: he managed to inflame many here into manifest foolishness with absurdities that should have triggered the "shoot first, ask questions later" response.

[Solitar]

I’m a veteran of our U.S. Armed Forces. If I train a member of a so called militia to shoot would it mean that the U.S. is training militias???

If White Christian or Atheist Americans "organized and trained as a militia" they would rounded up, imprisoned, and their communities could be WACO'ed. Double standard strikes again.

[Screaming_Gerbil]

I’d follow somebody from the IDF, especially their Special Forces.

Have you seen some of their women?...

http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/2006/08/why_israelis_will_wi.html

[PA Engineer]

You signed up today to post this:

Meaning since when do Hebrews get the right to make the rules ?

I think you will be more welcome at the liberty forum. You are not going to last long here.

[PerpetualStudent]

I really do hate the media as they print what the want to hear and not the whole story.

The only thing that makes this group JEWISH is that the founder is Jewish and lives in a Jewish community. The concepts of the group are “global”.

Any community that feels the government isn’t capable (history) of protecting life and property under extreme circumstances has the utmost right to defend itself.

All this group wants to do is to train people to do just that. To provide be the first responders when needed AND to provide the security lacking in the current governments action plans.