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Savage has cited respectable commentators who suggest that many kids with the autistic label are merely late talkers. His defense fails on two counts. First, these commentators don’t speak in the hateful language that he has used...

Boo-hoo. I have never listened to Savage, I don't even know what his voice sounds like. But this criticism is crybaby stuff. "His science is wrong because he hurt my feelings" should not be coming out of the mouth (or pen) of anyone, let alone a professor (even a "professor of government", which itself is a frightening thing).

If we allowed the purveyors of perpetual victimhood free reign, nobody would be "normal", every last person would have some "condition" attached. "Subclinical" this, "asymptomatic" that, "high functioning", "spectrum disorders", etc etc etc. Legitimate terms, warped beyond any rational medical meaning, are used to feed a spectrum of interests (pharmaceuticals, adult babysitters therapists, folks who just want more handouts, crappy parents looking to shift the blame).

When I was a kid, words like awkward, shy, and withdrawn, or energetic, loud, and troublemaker, were used to describe children now "diagnosed" with autism or ADHD. The supposedly blighted children (by today's standards) are all normal functioning adults today. Hell, I probably would have been labeled autistic because I mixed (informal) sign language and English in near equal proportions until age 4. Is that unusual? YES! Is it a medical condition? Of course not.

If anything, projecting ones own hypochondria is a mental sickness that needs to be addressed.

23 posted on 07/26/2008 12:30:34 PM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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"His science is wrong because he hurt my feelings"

His science is WRONG. PERIOD.
28 posted on 07/26/2008 12:35:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: M203M4
When I was a kid, words like awkward, shy, and withdrawn, or energetic, loud, and troublemaker, were used to describe children now "diagnosed" with autism or ADHD.

Yes, but you grew up being able to talk, relate, reason, get married, have children, etc.

Do not confuse your personal history with the thousands and thousands of kids out there who cannot even talk, live in their own world and cannot even relate to society at large.

There are MANY ADULTS who are like that too.

I have seen MANY kids like these in school (one of my nephews being one of them) and attempting to categorize them as brat is not only unscientific, it's being clueless.
32 posted on 07/26/2008 12:38:36 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: M203M4
M203M4 wrote:
Boo-hoo. I have never listened to Savage, I don't even know what his voice sounds like. But this criticism is crybaby stuff. “His science is wrong because he hurt my feelings” should not be coming out of the mouth (or pen) of anyone, let alone a professor (even a “professor of government”, which itself is a frightening thing).

If we allowed the purveyors of perpetual victimhood free reign, nobody would be “normal”, every last person would have some “condition” attached. “Subclinical” this, “asymptomatic” that, “high functioning”, “spectrum disorders”, etc etc etc. Legitimate terms, warped beyond any rational medical meaning, are used to feed a spectrum of interests (pharmaceuticals, adult babysitters therapists, folks who just want more handouts, crappy parents looking to shift the blame).

When I was a kid, words like awkward, shy, and withdrawn, or energetic, loud, and troublemaker, were used to describe children now “diagnosed” with autism or ADHD. The supposedly blighted children (by today's standards) are all normal functioning adults today. Hell, I probably would have been labeled autistic because I mixed (informal) sign language and English in near equal proportions until age 4. Is that unusual? YES! Is it a medical condition? Of course not.

If anything, projecting ones own hypochondria is a mental sickness that needs to be addressed.

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Little Mickey Savage is dat youse?

183 posted on 07/26/2008 4:03:43 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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I think in a few hundred years we will look at these braindoctors like we look at barbers from 300 years ago, where bloodletting was treatment for everything.


253 posted on 07/26/2008 10:37:55 PM PDT by Liberty2007 (Here's Dr. Savage's analysis on the POTUS race"The Afro-Leninist vs The Sarcophogus)
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