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To: SatinDoll
In 1981 Barack Obama said he went to Pakistan with a college roommate who had overstayed his student visa. At that time U.S. citizens were prohibited from traveling to or from Pakistan. The only way Obama could have gotten into and out of Pakistan was by using his Indonesian passport (which would clearly state his religion as Muslim).

He was have been around 19-20 years old. That is a sure declaration of citizenship when you use a passport as an adult. He declared his allegience to Indonesia.

He isn’t eligible, under Articl II of the U.S. Constitution, to be our President. As a lawyer specializing in Constitutional law he knows it too.


You have theorized that he used an Indonesian passport. You have not proven it to be fact.

There is only one way to renounce your American citizenship. By going to an American embassy or consulate and filling out an oath of renunciation.

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html

Violation of a travel ban may or may not be a felony, I don't know. But it obviously was not prosecuted and the statute of limitations has long since run on it. You may be able to use the violation of the law to embarrass him and possibly cause people not to vote for him, but he is a natural born American citizen and eligible for the Presidency. Since he is a Democrat a violation of the law may be a resume enhancement.

As for what Barry Obama knows, I would not rely on his knowledge of constitutional law in any way, shape, manner, or form.

Do not mistake my statement of the law for an endorsement of his candidacy and election.

30 posted on 07/26/2008 10:07:00 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Democratic Underground: Ever wonder where all those who took the brown acid at Woodstock wound up?)
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To: Cheburashka

He couldn’t have entered Pakistan on a U.S. passport. Any idea as to how he traveled around in southwest Asia without one?


31 posted on 07/27/2008 12:57:50 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: Cheburashka; wideminded

I really hate reminding people of history they should know. During 1982 - 1986 I was working a desk in Middle East, Mediterranean, and North African intelligence for one of the military branches. I won’t be more specific than that.

The Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan in 1978. In 1981 Afghanistan was in chaos and Pakistan was under martial law, being used by various agencies as a leaping off point for incursions into Afghanistan. If you were an American tourist you couldn’t get a visa to enter Pakistan as it was on the U.S. State Department’s no-travel lists a very dangerous place.

Barack Obama traveled to Pakistan via Indonesia. We already know that he had been registered in Indonesian public schools as Lolo Soetoro’s son, as a Muslim, and as an Indonesian. He had to have had an identity card, called a KTP, to have been enrolled. Indonesia at that time was a police state and non-Indonesian children could not be enrolled.

He traveled between Indonesia and Hawaii in 1971 using an Indonesian passport to depart Indonesia and entered Hawaii using a U.S. passport. That is what has been reported by people investigating that period in his childhood.

In 1981 he traveled to Pakistan, with his Pakistani roommate, via Indonesia.

It would have been very easy to update his KTP and Indonesian passport to enter Pakistan, and a great deal of trouble to try to travel on his U.S. passport, especially as he wouldn’t have been granted a visa to enter Pakistan.

At age twenty, was he even thinking that he might one day run for President of the United States?

All the above can be found on Texasdarlin’s blog.


35 posted on 07/27/2008 1:44:16 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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