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Are Pot Users Criminals? The Tragic Case of Rachel Hoffman
ABC News ^ | July 24, 2008 | BRIAN ROSS and VIC WALTER

Posted on 07/25/2008 8:49:03 PM PDT by bamahead

After being caught twice with a "baggie" of marijuana, 23-year old Rachel Hoffman was reportedly told by police in Tallahassee, Florida that she would go to prison for four years unless she became an undercover informant.

The young woman, a recent graduate of Florida State University, was murdered during a botched sting operation two months ago.

"The idea of waging a war on drugs is to protect people and here it seems like we're putting people in harm's way," said Lance Block, a lawyer hired by Rachel's parents.

The Florida Attorney General's office says it is reviewing the procedures and protocol of the Tallahassee police.

"I'm calling her a criminal," Tallahassee police chief Dennis Jones told 20/20, who maintains that both drug dealers and drug users are considered criminals to his department.

Under Florida law, possession of more than 20 grams of marijuana is a felony.

The Tallahassee police chief says Rachel was suspected of selling drugs and she was rightly treated as a criminal.

"That's my job as a police chief to find these criminals in our community and take them off the street, to make the proper arrests," Jones told 20/20.

Rachel's case also is raising questions about how police recruit and use informants in undercover operations.

"There need to be some safeguards here," said Block, the Hoffman family lawyer.

The young woman received no training before being sent to an undercover meeting to buy a large amount of drugs and a handgun from two suspects.

Police says Rachel was killed by the very handgun she was supposed to buy.

"I don't think she understood the risk or danger that she was in," said Block.

Rachel was in a drug court diversion program when she became an informant.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: baronmunchiehausen; criminals; donutwatch; jbts; lawsuit; libertarians; munchies; pot; potheadalert; potheads; themunchies; wod; wosd
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To: Mojave

No you are arguing with your own comments?


741 posted on 08/01/2008 7:21:43 AM PDT by CSM (Hey if a small tax increase didn't work, a bigger tax increase should not work even BETTER!)
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To: CSM

English, please.


742 posted on 08/01/2008 7:25:26 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Did you miss reading the article or have you confused this with another case? I am referring to the person who fell off an embankment with a broken back and heel and was subsequently tasered 19 times by the police. Capeesh?


743 posted on 08/03/2008 7:12:01 AM PDT by greccogirl
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To: Mojave

Well by all means then, kill him! The fact that he sitting unarmed in a vehicle means nothing! (This will save us from criminals). After you get done with that try to find a granny or child to taser. That works too


744 posted on 08/03/2008 7:13:10 AM PDT by greccogirl
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To: Mojave
"Murder and drug dealing equals freedom of speech. Trippy.

that quote by Sir Thomas May was on the FBI’s page, acknowledging abuse in the drug informant system.

-you equate a suspect charged with possession of a bag of marijuana to a murderer...since when has a murder suspect ever been used as a C.I.

I suspected you wouldn't grasp the larger concept of due process.

I was right.

745 posted on 08/03/2008 7:13:38 AM PDT by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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To: Mojave

Ah yes ROTFLMAO And that’s because of the WOD!!!!


746 posted on 08/03/2008 7:14:14 AM PDT by greccogirl
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To: CSM

You were welcome. :-)


747 posted on 08/03/2008 7:15:16 AM PDT by greccogirl
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To: Mojave

Let me give you a hint. View drug statistics from the government harshly. (You should already know this)


748 posted on 08/03/2008 7:16:31 AM PDT by greccogirl
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To: greccogirl
I am referring to the person who fell off an embankment with a broken back and heel

I'll ask you for a cite. Again.

749 posted on 08/03/2008 7:17:25 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: greccogirl
The fact that he sitting unarmed in a vehicle

And the fact that police have xray vision...

750 posted on 08/03/2008 7:18:27 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: waiyu

Those that make the laws don’t feel that way. Just read some of these threads......alcohol and nicotine and prescription drugs have done more to destroy lives than pot could do in thousands of years.


751 posted on 08/03/2008 7:18:33 AM PDT by greccogirl
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To: FBD
that quote by Sir Thomas May was on the FBI’s page, acknowledging abuse in the drug informant system.

Was she framing the perps who murdered her?

752 posted on 08/03/2008 7:19:40 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: greccogirl
Let me give you a hint. View drug statistics from the government harshly.

Like your citeless stories about nameless people on unspecified dates in unknown locations?

753 posted on 08/03/2008 7:21:21 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

They couldn’t have taken a “bullet” moron, he was unarmed.


754 posted on 08/03/2008 7:21:55 AM PDT by greccogirl
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To: greccogirl
Ah yes ROTFLMAO And that’s because of the WOD!!!!

“These efforts have produced measurable results,’’ he said today, in his weekly radio address. “Since 2001, the rate of youth drug abuse has dropped by 24 percent.’’

Ecstasy is off 50 percent, methamphetamines off 64 percent, the report concludes.

Yep.

755 posted on 08/03/2008 7:23:13 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Why reason enough to kill him, right? The fact that he unarmed, well, that is just a technicality!


756 posted on 08/03/2008 7:24:01 AM PDT by greccogirl
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To: greccogirl
They couldn’t have taken a “bullet” moron, he was unarmed.

Oh, no xray vision? Then the police should be required to have psychics on scene when they arrest a gangbanger with a history of violent assaults on sheriffs.

Trippy.

757 posted on 08/03/2008 7:26:12 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: greccogirl
Why reason enough to kill him, right?

Yep.

758 posted on 08/03/2008 7:27:26 AM PDT by Mojave
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To: dalereed
If I had my way anyone using drugs should on the spot execution.

You're like WAY out there, man!

759 posted on 08/03/2008 7:33:54 AM PDT by humblegunner (I'm voting for McCain because he's white.)
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To: government is the beast
Ms Hoffman was a drug dealer not a gun dealer.

Where is any evidence she was a dealer?

Evidence shows she was a probably a user.

760 posted on 08/03/2008 7:50:04 AM PDT by humblegunner (I'm voting for McCain because he's white.)
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