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Are Pot Users Criminals? The Tragic Case of Rachel Hoffman
ABC News ^ | July 24, 2008 | BRIAN ROSS and VIC WALTER

Posted on 07/25/2008 8:49:03 PM PDT by bamahead

After being caught twice with a "baggie" of marijuana, 23-year old Rachel Hoffman was reportedly told by police in Tallahassee, Florida that she would go to prison for four years unless she became an undercover informant.

The young woman, a recent graduate of Florida State University, was murdered during a botched sting operation two months ago.

"The idea of waging a war on drugs is to protect people and here it seems like we're putting people in harm's way," said Lance Block, a lawyer hired by Rachel's parents.

The Florida Attorney General's office says it is reviewing the procedures and protocol of the Tallahassee police.

"I'm calling her a criminal," Tallahassee police chief Dennis Jones told 20/20, who maintains that both drug dealers and drug users are considered criminals to his department.

Under Florida law, possession of more than 20 grams of marijuana is a felony.

The Tallahassee police chief says Rachel was suspected of selling drugs and she was rightly treated as a criminal.

"That's my job as a police chief to find these criminals in our community and take them off the street, to make the proper arrests," Jones told 20/20.

Rachel's case also is raising questions about how police recruit and use informants in undercover operations.

"There need to be some safeguards here," said Block, the Hoffman family lawyer.

The young woman received no training before being sent to an undercover meeting to buy a large amount of drugs and a handgun from two suspects.

Police says Rachel was killed by the very handgun she was supposed to buy.

"I don't think she understood the risk or danger that she was in," said Block.

Rachel was in a drug court diversion program when she became an informant.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: baronmunchiehausen; criminals; donutwatch; jbts; lawsuit; libertarians; munchies; pot; potheadalert; potheads; themunchies; wod; wosd
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To: greccogirl

You sure seem to have a vested in this girl. I guess you can really relate to her situation?


221 posted on 07/25/2008 11:21:58 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: greccogirl

That story really got to me. They went downstairs to plant drugs while she was dying. It later came out that the cops who were shot in that incident were hit by their fellow officers.


222 posted on 07/25/2008 11:22:21 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Mojave

Uh oh, you’re bringing up facts that might tarnish the little angel’s reputation.. Better stop! :)


223 posted on 07/25/2008 11:22:36 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: MartinStyles

You don’t get it.

All I care about is this country living up to the freedoms we have and not allowing taliban wannabees like you to infringe upon them.


224 posted on 07/25/2008 11:22:44 PM PDT by Redcoat1982
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To: Redcoat1982

I am a transplant and for the last two years, a cancer patient. You wouldn’t BELIEVE the arsenal of crap I have been prescribed - oxycontin, morphine, dilaudid, ambien, oxycodone, phenergan, valium, (I could go on and on). All of this stuff is good but pot is bad. Right................

Sometimes I think we deserve the crap that comes our way because we are so stupid.


225 posted on 07/25/2008 11:22:50 PM PDT by greccogirl
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To: greccogirl

Her own friend admitted she was a drug dealer. She was arrested and charged with possession of ecstasy with intent to sell.

Read.


226 posted on 07/25/2008 11:23:36 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Redcoat1982

So you’re for legalizing all drugs, not just the ones you like right? If you’re so into ‘freedom’ and stuff. Sounds like you’re just a hypocrite though to me. Drugs for me, not for thee..


227 posted on 07/25/2008 11:23:38 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: blackbart.223

Don’t get me wrong, I am not an anticop bot. I take it case by case. But the scenario I laid out has happened way too many times.


228 posted on 07/25/2008 11:23:48 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Mojave

CHARGES. She was convicted, was she?


229 posted on 07/25/2008 11:24:01 PM PDT by greccogirl
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To: MartinStyles
All they care about are their damn drugs.

It renders them impervious to facts.

230 posted on 07/25/2008 11:24:45 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: MartinStyles

Oh my, that really hurt. Did you think that one up all by yourself?

I can relate to the stupidity of the war on drugs. Anyone with half a brain can.

I also hate what the cops did to this girl. She had no training and no business doing this crap.

They will pay - watch and see.


231 posted on 07/25/2008 11:25:14 PM PDT by greccogirl
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To: greccogirl
CHARGES.

Caught in possession.

232 posted on 07/25/2008 11:25:33 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
"Yes, it should have been. Her choice."

People like you scare me.

233 posted on 07/25/2008 11:25:57 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

Yes but all know that all law enforcement could never do wrong, could they?

I actually feel sorry for anyone who is a clean cop. Their life must be hell nowdays.


234 posted on 07/25/2008 11:26:11 PM PDT by greccogirl
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To: MartinStyles

No,evidently you have a comprehension problem.

I am for legalizing pot and hashish. This is the 3rd time I posted it, pay attention.

You still haven’t answered my question, how many people overdose on pot each year?

Hint, its less than how many people die from peanuts, or bee stings, or dog attacks.


235 posted on 07/25/2008 11:26:15 PM PDT by Redcoat1982
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To: greccogirl

They aren’t going to pay jack, you watch. This girl is basically a suicide by stupidity.


236 posted on 07/25/2008 11:26:16 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: Redcoat1982

Ok, so you want your drugs legal, but not those that others use.

Hypocrite.


237 posted on 07/25/2008 11:26:52 PM PDT by MartinStyles
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To: greccogirl
She had no training

She was an experienced drug dealer with multiple arrests.

238 posted on 07/25/2008 11:27:04 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

But no conviction so technically she did no crime, did she?


239 posted on 07/25/2008 11:27:10 PM PDT by greccogirl
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To: waiyu
"So...why not make all drugs legal then. If no one would abuse them it’s not a problem right. We could save some tax money and do away with the DEA, right?"

Pretty much. But no one said they would not be abused. I am saying they are abused now, legal or otherwise by people who are so inclined. When the abuse imposes on others let us nail their asses to a tree. Big tree, big nail, long time.

Since you avoided my question twice I'll just assume availability would not make you a drug addict and that you don't feel that you are special in that regard.


240 posted on 07/25/2008 11:27:13 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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