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Piecing Together Obama Troop Snub: Is Gen. Gration Tantrum Reason for Cancellation?
Friday, July 25, 2008 | Kristinn

Posted on 07/25/2008 11:56:10 AM PDT by kristinn

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1 posted on 07/25/2008 11:56:10 AM PDT by kristinn
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These guys make the Katrina aftermath look like a smooth operation planned by The A Team.


2 posted on 07/25/2008 12:02:03 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: kristinn

Good digging!

You would think these press persons travelling with Obama would be able to ferret out this stuff. They have connections with all the relevant parties. I guess they don’t want to offend their host, and that makes them not so objective. They fear retribution from the Obama campaign . . .


3 posted on 07/25/2008 12:02:35 PM PDT by petitfour
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Barry could have visited the troops in the hospital - maybe one or two would have been from Illinois - and visit as a US Senator! What a concept. The pouting general did not serve his “future” commander in chief very well. Is this how Barry will cave to his “military advisers” in the future to the point of embarrassment? If you are looking for a leadership moment, keep walkin’!

It would also be an opportunity to see a “reverse-Patton” whereby an injured soldier slaps the crap our of Barry for being a coward and stinking up a place of honor, then send Barry to the front.

4 posted on 07/25/2008 12:05:02 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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Any retired high-ranking military officer associating with Obama isn’t doing this to promote the well-being of the armed forces. It’s personal ambition. I smell ego, and a sense of “entitlement denied.” I can see the former general declaring “Don’t you know who I am?” (And the perfect reply would be “I know who you were but that was then and this is now”).


5 posted on 07/25/2008 12:05:20 PM PDT by henkster (Politics is the art of telling a bigger and more believable lie more often than your opponent)
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To: kristinn

Over-inflated egos do not promote wise decision-making. The whole trip was about Obama, not the troops.


6 posted on 07/25/2008 12:05:27 PM PDT by Faith
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re: You would think these press persons travelling with Obama would be able to ferret out this stuff.)))

ROFL!!

7 posted on 07/25/2008 12:07:45 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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And, even more important, is Obama lying to the American people about it?

Were his lips moving?
8 posted on 07/25/2008 12:09:01 PM PDT by jimmango
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To: kristinn

All NoBama had to say was, “What do I have to do to see the troops?”

He didn’t find a way to do it. He cancelled instead.


9 posted on 07/25/2008 12:09:22 PM PDT by PurpleMan
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"Today, responding to media queries, the Pentagon said they informed Obama that while he could bring a Senate staffer and a security team, he could not bring Gen. Gration and another campaign staffer named Jeff Kiernan."

Good stuff, looks like Gration was in the middle of this, probably hit the roof when he was denied access. Sorry, General, you're a campaign staffer now and that changes everything....... now the Obamessiah has really stepped in it. May have been the General's ego more than anything causing the problem, but Obambi's ego was also greatly offended, I'm sure ...... "What do you mean they won't let ME, the Obamessiah, do whatever the hell I please on my campaign tour of Europe???"
10 posted on 07/25/2008 12:11:23 PM PDT by Enchante (OBAMESSIAH: "Pay no attention to that pitiful little man behind the curtain!")
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All NoBama had to say was, “What do I have to do to see the troops?” He didn’t find a way to do it. He cancelled instead.

Exactly! That is a key point that must be hammered home until the lib weasels squeal in agony..... the Obamessiah could have made this happen, it was on track to happen, but his ego and poor judgment got in the way.
11 posted on 07/25/2008 12:13:52 PM PDT by Enchante (OBAMESSIAH: "Pay no attention to that pitiful little man behind the curtain!")
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To: Mamzelle
You would think these press persons ferrets travelling with Obama would be able to ferret out this stuff.
12 posted on 07/25/2008 12:14:16 PM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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If this account is true, and it certainly sounds plausible in light of the time sequence and information you have provided, this certainly doesn’t bode well either for Obama’s ability to negotiate with or persuade foreign leaders whose views or interests differ from those of the US (he can’t handle his own advisors???) or his ability to talk straight with the American people about what he is doing or why he is doing it.

Throughout this campaign, Obama has displayed repeated instances of behavior suggesting an arrogant and self-absorbed individual who has come to believe that he can smooth-talk his way out of anything. This is not an admirable trait in any individual. In a president, it can literally be downright dangerous.


13 posted on 07/25/2008 12:14:29 PM PDT by DrC
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Jim Geraghty at NRO had the same observation about Gen. Gration this morning, but postulated it more gently than I did.
14 posted on 07/25/2008 12:15:11 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: henkster

The EUCOM page doesn’t hint of the General’s retirement date....so I’ll assume it was fairly recent. Based on my years at Ramstein...all of these retiree generals all believe they still carry rank and are rarely if ever denied their “status”....so when the Landstuhl leadership stood up and said “no”...this was likely the first “no” this guy had heard in years. He probably didn’t take it well...and was creating a massive explosion within the Obama funnel. The moment that he picked up the phone and started calling active duty generals at the Pentagon and EUCOM....the Obama staff got real nervous because this was going to be a dismal news item when it got out that the guy got his way eventually....by personal favors.

The natural decision by any candidate or his controllers...is to end the fuse burning quickly and move on. To this degree....I agree with the Obama staff. The retired general was going to make problems for no value.

Prepare for more of these episodes over the next five months....as a number of folks believe they are still carrying “status”.


15 posted on 07/25/2008 12:17:42 PM PDT by pepsionice
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If Barack begins a statement “As I’ve said many times before”, you know he’s lying.


16 posted on 07/25/2008 12:22:52 PM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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I foundJeff Kiernan on this Obama staff chart...he is not high up on the food chain.
17 posted on 07/25/2008 12:29:10 PM PDT by Dog (We have entered into the realm of 9/10 all over again...Lord help us.)
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To: Enchante

If Gration ever wanted to return and visit the troops in the hospital alone as a retired general, then I’m sure the Pentagon would have no problem with that whatsoever. I hope the McCain campaign and the RNC realize this now that the Obambi campaign is in meltdown spin mode. The news of the messiah’s snub has already passed through the ranks and is all over myspace and facebook, and the best part is the MSM can’t stop it or control it. Thank God for the internet and viral growth.


18 posted on 07/25/2008 12:29:13 PM PDT by moose2004 (Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill And Then Drill Some More)
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To: Crimson Elephant

This is an example of, “he didn’t want to go in the first place and looked for an excuse to get out of going.”

His campaign then release an erroneous story that McCain was behind the cancellation. This rumor was reported by Andrea Mitchell.

This guy is dangeous. His immaturity and lack of experience and the fact that he is way over his head when it applies to military matters, is enough for sane people not to vote for him.

The only people who will vote for this guy are:

1. Most blacks esp those uneducated
2. Mostly uneducated whites...
3. Left wing liberals and other kooks.

I don’t care what you want to call it, “a vote against Obama”, a vote “for McCain” etc. We all need to bury our differences on the issue of John McCain and support him for president.


19 posted on 07/25/2008 12:31:36 PM PDT by nikos1121 (The first black president of the US should be at least a "Jackie Robinson.")
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To: Dog

Thanks. I couldn’t find anything about him. I was looking to see if he had a military background also as he was one of the two campaign staffers singled out for exclusion.


20 posted on 07/25/2008 12:32:37 PM PDT by kristinn
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