Obama speech at the Victory Column in Berlin- LIVE THREAD

Various | 24 July 2008

[SE Mom]

Obama is scheduled to speak in Berlin at the Victory Column sometime between 1 and 1:30 Eastern.

All cable networks will cover the speech, live.

[Sols]

The groups who played are Patrice Bart-Williams (reggae) and Reamonn (rock) and neither of them are very popular (no offense to them).

[roses of sharon]

Americans on American Soil [Byron York]

It’s a small passage from Obama’s Berlin speech, but this formulation, common in some circles, grates on some ears, like mine:

The terrorists of September 11th plotted in Hamburg and trained in Kandahar and Karachi before killing thousands from all over the globe on American soil.

Yes, the victims were from all over the globe — places like Brooklyn, and the Bronx, and Manhattan, and Queens, and Staten Island, and New Jersey — all over. And most were Americans, weren’t they? Wasn’t that the point of the attack? This isn’t to diminish the loss of anyone on September 11, but people come from all over the world to be Americans, and the great majority of people who died that day were Americans. Factcheck.org looked into the question a while back:

Specifically in New York, a little under 3,000 people died in the attack on the World Trade Center. A year after the incident, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that 2,726 death certificates had been issued and estimated that another 93 deaths had occurred, bringing the total to 2,819 persons.

Of those issued death certificates, 1 percent (27 people) were foreign nationals from eight different countries. Also, about 21 percent (568 people) were born outside of the U.S.

07/24 02:02 PM

[free_life]

How long till it is illegal to mock the emperor of the world?

[9YearLurker]

I remember the put-down that Bush the Elder supposedly reminded every divorcee of her first husband—but I couldn’t see that.

[tiredoflaundry]

I said it earlier, he will be sorry he ever made that speech.

[SE Mom]

ROFL- looks like we hang out at the same places!!

[AmericaUnited]

He’s not JFK standing for freedom against the partition of Germany. He is not Ronald Reagan putting a metaphorical dagger in the heart of the Soviet Empire. He’s just a guy trying to scramble onto their shoulders. He looked silly doing it.

Exactly. He had no real compelling reason for the speech. It was so forced/contrived.

[Will88]

Now, I guess Obama will go to France and demonstrate his multi-lingual skills: merci, beaucoup, senor.

[chickpundit]

Creepy stuff.

[Miss Didi]

Did you watch? When he speaks there’s a creepy expression particularly his mouth.

I refuse to look at him. He repulses me.

[floriduh voter]

Isn’t Obama making a documentary of his vacation? This could be all for the imagery for his propaganda film. He’s so like Adolph that I think going to Berlin was a miscalculation. His propaganda machine is much better than he is. He is rude to journalists and hopefully, they’ll get sick of it right quick. They broke away from Berlin fairly quickly or went to commercial.

[tiredoflaundry]

Did you see this??

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2050671/posts

[visualops]

wow that’s really good, and scarily true!

[keepitreal]

Byron York should not mix up the great Obama with the facts. 9/11 was an attack on the entire world! It was. It was.

[cajungirl]

A good photo shop would be a little skinny obama on top of Reagans massive figure and JFK’s figure.

[chimera]

Count me in. I started out this election season with the mission in life to keep Hillary out of the WH. But this creep is so much worse, if that's possible. Every last one of us should make it his/her priority this year to fight against the Obomination’s quest to rule the world.

[Miss Didi]

Americans not digging Little Barry playing president at summer camp makes my day. ;)

[tsmith130]

Rush just said that even though BO has extended his German trip, he's cancelled visits to military bases/hospitals.

Man, I loooooathe this guy.

[SE Mom]

UNREAL. Barry sets a new bar for outrage.

[floriduh voter]

One big mistake was for him to stand alone and the speakers were reverberating. It reminded me of Plankton from Spongebob Squarepants. (Little guy with loudspeakers.)