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To: Sicon

I don’t have a lot of motivation to try and prove anything to some folks who seem hell-bent on swimming in thick blackness.

The TYPE I VS TYPE II ERROR stuff is a valid point. It seems to be dismissed because folks don’t like to admit the truth of what I say about it. Rigid, narrow, dogmatic, Religion-of-Scientism bias is a hard task master—along with pride.

Let me see if I can come up with one class of the sort of thing I was talking about. . . .

There is an assumption in the perspective you presented that there are NO channels of communication, evidence, observation than those we are in limited awareness of from our limited perspective.

That’s silly.

Even our limited understanding postulates 11 or so other dimensions.

Then consider the spiritual dimension.

What if every atom has some communication with it’s Creator.

There’s all manner of conceivable possibilities. Walling them all off as impossible by fiat is certainly not scientific.


552 posted on 07/25/2008 10:00:28 AM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: Quix
Even our limited understanding postulates 11 or so other dimensions

There’s all manner of conceivable possibilities. Walling them all off as impossible by fiat is certainly not scientific

I never walled off any possibilities. Lots of things are "possible" or "conceivable", but this thread is about claims of fact.

So is this whole thread just a discussion about fantasies and possibilities rather than a discussion of the assertion by this ex-astronaut of alien visitations, etc., as REALITY? The basis of this thread is an ex-astronaut who claims that not only are there aliens, not only have they been visiting earth for decades, but various shadowy government entities have been examing their bodies and spacecraft, in secret, for decades.

As I have said so many times before, apart from being terribly unlikely (not impossible, but unlikely), there has never been any serious proof of any of the myriad claims of the UFOlogist cultists. And for you to continually suggest that no one here who disagrees with you has read the "evidence", as if that is a substitute for fact, reason, and reality, is a waste of everyone's time. If aliens are real, if they've been visiting earth, then present the evidence that PROVES it. And that takes more than a bunch of eyewitness accounts, stories of abductions, supposed other-worldly knowledge among primative tribesmen, fuzzy photos, jerky, poorly focused videos, and musings about other dimensions or imagined communications between atoms.

Unless of course, you are asking everyone to accept the existence of aliens as a matter of faith? That would put UFOlogy in the realm of religion, not science.

566 posted on 07/25/2008 10:33:43 AM PDT by Sicon
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To: Quix
I don’t have a lot of motivation to try and prove anything to some folks who seem hell-bent on swimming in thick blackness.

"There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell 'em." - Louis Armstrong

Right Quix?
665 posted on 07/26/2008 5:09:28 AM PDT by ZX12R
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