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To: sloop

I heard it’s possible to run a standard, no mods gas car on up to 40% alcohol mix.

The writer who was talking on the subject, suggested skeptics try this experiment. Next time you’re in the gas station, if you’ve got an E-85 tank available.

Add one gallon of E-85 to your car. Then continue your gas fill-up.

Next time, try two.

Evidently, Henry Ford built the Model T, to run on alcohol.

It was only prohibition, the writer claimed, which forced Ford to switch the auto engines to gas.

The writer claimed ... Rockefeller funded prohibition, and it wasn’t a social movement, rather it eliminated alcohol as competition to Standard Oil...

Can’t speak to the truth of that claim, though it rings true to this poster.

If alcohol was what Henry Ford had in mind to begin with...

Let’s go back to it.

And stop supporting terrorists.

(currently looking for ways, to convert a factory gas car, to E-85 flex-fuel)


17 posted on 07/23/2008 10:23:31 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (CHEVY VOLT COUNTDOWN: V minus 103 Weeks. Waiting...)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Evidently, Henry Ford built the Model T, to run on alcohol.

It was only prohibition, the writer claimed, which forced Ford to switch the auto engines to gas.

Prohibition didn't start until 1920. We had quite a few refineries and gasoline stations providing the fuel for cars then. Ethanol "refineries" were not producing much of anything beyond medicinal and drinking.

25 posted on 07/24/2008 6:23:26 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

OIL PRODUCTION IN 1920.; 2,500,000 More Gallons of Gasoline Were Produced Daily Than in 1919.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9B01E7DA113FE432A25750C1A9659C946095D6CF


26 posted on 07/24/2008 6:25:00 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I’d be careful about running more than 15% ethanol in a non-flex fuel car. The differences between a standard car and a flex fuel car is that a flex fuel car...

Has no rubber in contact with the fuel

has no uncoated aluminum in contact with the fuel(liquid form)

has no uncoated magnesium in contact with the fuel

has no uncoated steel in contact with the fuel, unless it’s stainless.

Also, the fuel pump is different, but I don’t remember the special characteristics required for ethanol.

Traditionally, fuel lines are a combination of rubber hoses and uncoated steel lines. Carburetors are aluminum. If you are going to run high concentrations of ethanol, the rubber fuel lines must have a plastic or nylon liner in them. The steel lines must be stainless. The gas tanks must be lined with something or be made of stainless or some kind of plastic.

Ethanol causes corrosion and it somehow causes rubber to deteriorate.


37 posted on 07/24/2008 3:57:56 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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