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To: reformedliberal

You have an excellent handle on it IMO. I don’t know what to do about it other than help others see it as clearly though. I don’t think quiet acceptance is necessary but quietly leading others into developing the same kind of critical thinking skills you have is very powerful. It’s a slow process but it builds momentum.


62 posted on 07/21/2008 2:25:41 PM PDT by TigersEye (Drill or get off the Hill. ... call Nancy Pelosi @ 202 - 225 - 0100)
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To: TigersEye
Thanx. I was actually educated pre-1968, which, in my opinion, was the last year a true education was available in the USA. The story of my life, since, has been one of speaking out, being sanctioned or threatened with sanctions and, much later after each individual event, having others who were present tell me I was correct. No one, however, who eventually saw things my way, did a thing about the various precipitating situations.

I am math impaired, but I do fine with concepts. However, I have watched in disbelief as brilliant minds I knew personally were subverted by the leftist inculcation. In one case, I watched my physician brother absorb his childen’s elementary school inculcation, by proxy, and become a true believer, himself.

So, I have no leverage, myself, with which to challenge the prevailing orthodoxy. Even the skeptical scientists, one of whom I worked for about 10 years ago, was reluctant to go head-to-head with the irrationalists, because, as he said:”I may find myself in need of their support at some future time.”

Personally, I have chosen The Church of the Low Profile and just try to live my life without drawing a lot of negative attention. I have enough of a past reputation among those who know me that I am easily dismissed, as in:”Well, she is cynical.” (Cynical, in case you are unaware, is Newspeak for skeptical and is a very negative term used in this context.)

I do not think anything can be done until and unless scientists who are truly skeptical stand and be counted. They take great career risks in doing so, so I doubt it will happen. They must publish, or lose career momentum, not to mention credibility. It is expensive to found a journal and takes a long time to build its reputation to the point where there would be credible alternatives.

Over the decades, I have watched as educated people actually seem to have lost the ability to even recognize actual critical thinking skills. The moment something conflicts with the powerful inculcations of their education, they shut down.
Even if they respect the speaker for real accomplishments, it is as though they cannot allow themselves to even listen to refutations, let alone consider them. The conflict with their self image as a *good* person is immense. They will agree, point-by-point, but physically recoil from the conclusions.
I do not know how one leads anyone under these conditions.

65 posted on 07/21/2008 3:49:13 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Capitalism is what happens when governments get out of the way.)
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