To: saminfl
The offsets are low-ball amounts -- designed to make the customer sucker feel good (and to look good to his eco-fascist friends).
The airline is probably not actually trying to dupe anyone -- the price of carbon offsets today is quite low, because the market is still small, and suppliers are still picking the low-lying fruit.
Actual carbon taxes would (will?) be in the order of $100/ton CO2 -- which would mean paying 3 or 4 times the amounts mentioned in the "choices". The warmists want to lull people into thinking that getting "off oil" will be relatively painless.
(BTW, I didn't just pull the $100 figure from the air. Here, in Canada, our federal Liberal party is promising a tax of $40/tonne of carbon -- that's over $120/ton CO2. Meanwhile, in BC, we already have a provincial carbon tax that will rise to $30/tonne in 2012 -- that's nearly $100/ton CO2.)
To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
"Meanwhile, in BC, we already have a provincial carbon tax that will rise to $30/tonne in 2012 -- that's nearly $100/ton CO2.) " Who pays this, everyone? Is this based on a consumer average? I know the provincial liberal government there is carbon crazy, along with half the moonbats that live there, and have already implemented a carbon tax on gasoline (does that mean gasoline is now except from provincial carbon tax calculations?). As the carbon craze grows, you are going to see a lot of "tax on tax" situations in that province.
Next to be hit is a carbon tax on stumpage fee's charged to lumber companies I'll bet.
Woe be to those who cut down the "carbon sink".
To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
The airline is probably not actually trying to dupe anyone -- the price of carbon offsets today is quite low, because the market is still small, and suppliers are still picking the low-lying fruit.I think you are correct as far as the airline not intentionally trying to dupe anyone. But, as far as I am concerned, that Sustainable Travel organization is certainly trying to dupe everyone. They do not list one thing they are going to use the money for. I suspect all the dollars are going into keeping the organization's executives living the lifestyle they want to live.
27 posted on
07/21/2008 10:19:35 AM PDT by
saminfl
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
“Actual carbon taxes would (will?) be in the order of $100/ton CO2 — which would mean paying 3 or 4 times the amounts mentioned in the “choices”. The warmists want to lull people into thinking that getting “off oil” will be relatively painless.
(BTW, I didn’t just pull the $100 figure from the air. Here, in Canada, our federal Liberal party is promising a tax of $40/tonne of carbon — that’s over $120/ton CO2. Meanwhile, in BC, we already have a provincial carbon tax that will rise to $30/tonne in 2012 — that’s nearly $100/ton CO2.)”
Don’t you mean that backwards?
C=12; O=16; 12+16+16=48, C=1/4CO2...
28 posted on
07/21/2008 10:36:08 AM PDT by
Old Professer
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