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Caught On Camera: Teen Dies After Shot With Taser Gun
NBC4 ^ | 7/18/08

Posted on 07/20/2008 1:16:07 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: Charlespg

Although I agree with your sentiment about police abuse, I have to again reiterate that in this case, the suspect did indeed warrant a tasering due to the behaviour that he exhibited that was edited out of the video.

This suspect definitely needed to be subdued, no doubt about it.

The officer was clearly in the wrong for using the taser as long as he did, but his statements and the video seem to back up his story that he didn’t think the taser was working.


61 posted on 07/20/2008 2:44:59 PM PDT by Rammer
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To: Rammer
Rammer, if you continue to taser someone for this amount of time (as they're calmly walking away) there's a problem.
And I repeat, I find it hard to believe that someone can comprehend directions while being tasered.
(much less while they're having a heart attack induced by being tasered)
62 posted on 07/20/2008 2:45:45 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: 4yearlurker

I can not fully express my views on this. Suffice it to say it begins with what you wrote but does not end there.


63 posted on 07/20/2008 2:46:04 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Rammer

Okay. But it makes the officer and his fellow officers look bad.
Seems like we really need to go back to guns, billy clubs, and truncheons. None of this “sorta-non-lethal” crap. Especially if leads folks like me to second-guessin’ the cops...


64 posted on 07/20/2008 2:46:09 PM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: freeangel
Me too. We'd be fine. When seconds count, police are minutes away.

I'll take care of my own security, and help out my neighbors, if needed.

Just stand out of the citizen's way.

/johnny

65 posted on 07/20/2008 2:47:52 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: LibWhacker

That kid’s family just won the lottery.


66 posted on 07/20/2008 2:54:22 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The problem with the rat race is,even if you win you're still a rat.)
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To: LibWhacker

This is manslaughter plain and simple. Cop needs to do time.


67 posted on 07/20/2008 2:54:46 PM PDT by gost2
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To: Charlespg
There are too many people here on free republic who think that having a badge is excuse for behavior that no free society should allow.

There are also too many people here on Free Republic who think that having a badge automatically makes an individual guilty of being a sadistic, jackbooted fascist on a power trip. There are individuals on every law enforcement agency in the county who bring either pride or shame the agencies they represent.

68 posted on 07/20/2008 2:59:13 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (A vote is like a rifle; its usefulness depends upon the character of the user.)
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To: freeangel
Like I said—I’d like to see every cop walk off the job —just to see what would happen to all the police bashers.

Yeah Yeah, Simmer down francis I never said I wanted to take the guns away from police. I said that they overuse these tazer things.

30 years ago they would cracked his head with a truncheon and tossed him in the poaky overnight and he'd still be alive.

69 posted on 07/20/2008 3:01:54 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: Rammer
Notice the suspect calmly start walking away from the officer.

I think you just screwed yourself with your own words. If the suspect was WALKING AWAY from the cop, why did he insist on continuing the tasering?

70 posted on 07/20/2008 3:09:07 PM PDT by library user (There's no sandwich like prawn sandwich.)
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To: freeangel
.It’s a crappy job for low pay and they put their lives on the line for citizens every day who then decide to second guess them or want to take any weapons they have away.

Why don't they? Perhaps it isn't such a crappy job. Maybe the pay isn't so bad.

71 posted on 07/20/2008 3:16:16 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (If given a choice between a POW and a POS, I'll take the POW.)
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To: LibWhacker

They need to change those things to only put out current for some max period of time, like 10 seconds or so, with a mandatory cooldown/off period (maybe 5 seconds?), after which you’d have to pull the trigger again to get another 10 second charge to repeat the cycle.


72 posted on 07/20/2008 3:20:53 PM PDT by MCH
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To: Rammer

I do not like taser, have seen too many taser stories of stuff that makes no justifiable sense, etc., but in this case, second-guessing an instantaneous decision, given the apparent lack of effect of the taser, seems somewhat more difficult.

As some locals are pointing out on this thread, this article appears to be a piece of disinformation and selective propaganda.


73 posted on 07/20/2008 3:33:22 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Charlespg

There are MANY JBT apologists here who will claim that the cop did nothing wrong and the taser is “harmless”.


74 posted on 07/20/2008 3:38:11 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Rammer

He ACCIDENTALLY held the trigger down for 37 seconds? Bullsh#t! He wanted to punish that boy for not conducting the proper police officer grovel. He murdered that boy as surely as if he had deliberately choked him.


75 posted on 07/20/2008 3:41:11 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: WilliamReading
"Aren’t these guys trained?"
10 posted on Sunday, July 20, 2008 4:30:38 PM by WilliamReading

They used to have mace and these night sticks. There is also pepper spray. But you used to have to have more than a fourth grade education to be a police officer. There has been a lowering of standards across the board throughout the country.

Tasers can be lethal. It should not be routine when there are other options and it is not a real life-threatening situation.

Were there other adult men in the store? Anyone with defensive line football training? Or, say, linebacker? Mike Curtis demonstrated how to deck a punk once. They might add that to the training films.

Basic survival skill: when the law arrives slacker punks should not resist because, even if it is not a WWF fourth grade dropout who likes to show his girlfriend his gun, they might get tasered for half a minute and die. There are abnormal people who experience a sexual thrill from administering taser shocks so that is something to look out for as well. Usually these are the same ones who are too eager to pull over female speeders in traffic and carry an extra set of handcuffs. It takes people different ways.

76 posted on 07/20/2008 3:41:21 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Blood of Tyrants

17 year old kid. dead forever.

Child killer cop. 5 day suspension.

Oh,it’s the media not telling the whole story.

If I were the kids parents I would sue this a$$hole cop for all he was worth. I would sell everything I own to bring him down.


77 posted on 07/20/2008 3:48:37 PM PDT by 4yearlurker
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To: Maverick68
I didn’t see any toxicology report. Wonder if he was hopped up.....

Its possible Dopers in Uniform: Cops on Steroids

78 posted on 07/20/2008 3:49:58 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (In Cleveland: No one may kill a mouse in the streets without a hunting license)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
They used to have mace and these night sticks. There is also pepper spray. But you used to have to have more than a fourth grade education to be a police officer. There has been a lowering of standards across the board throughout the country.

BINGO
A well trained police officer could have taken this kid down without useing a taser,instead now the kids dead. Bad thing to kill somebody just for being a stupid twit,even worse to justify it.

79 posted on 07/20/2008 4:43:29 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: Little Ray

When the justice system is committing the injustice, it’s time for vigilantism IMO. I have always been an “eye for and eye” sort of guy. Perhaps it would make an impression on them if one of their kids were elecooctuted (by accident, of course). If they didn’t have any kids, then maybe a wife or two nieces or nephews...


80 posted on 07/20/2008 4:45:12 PM PDT by babygene (This Government no longer works to secure our freedoms and provide for our common defense.)
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