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Obama's Choice of (new) Site for Speech Splits Germans (Ich Bin Ein Dummkopf)
International Herald Tribune ^ | Sunday, July 20, 2008 | Judy Dempsey

Posted on 07/20/2008 10:13:42 AM PDT by kristinn

BERLIN: The decision by Senator Barack Obama to speak at a landmark monument in Berlin this Thursday has opened up yet another controversy, with conservative and opposition politicians saying the site recalls Germany's Nazi past and Prussia's militaristic tradition.

Obama is planning to address what organizers expect will be huge crowds at the Siegessäule, or Victory Column, which is located in the center of a long and busy intersection that straddles the lush, public Tiergarten gardens and stretches up to the Brandenburg Gate.

SNIP

After days of back and forth between the chancellery and the Obama campaign, the Victory Column was selected.

But Andreas Schockenhoff, deputy leader of the conservative bloc in Parliament, said Sunday that the choice of the Victory Column, also known as the Golden Angel, was an "unhappy symbol" since it represented so much of Germany's militaristic past.

Rainer Brüderle, deputy leader of the opposition Free Democrats, said Obama's advisers had little idea of the historical significance of the Victory Column. "It was the symbol of German superiority over Denmark, Austria and France," Brüderle told the newspaper Bild am Sonntag.

The monument was built in 1864 to commemorate Prussia's victory over Denmark. When it was inaugurated, Prussia had defeated Austria during the Austro-Prussian war in 1866 and the Franco-Prussian war of 1870-71.

The column has been originally located near the Reichstag, now the Bundestag, or German Parliament, which is close to the Brandenburg Gate. But Adolf Hitler relocated it about two kilometers, or one mile, toward the western part of the city to the Grosser Stern, or Great Star.

(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; blueturban; communist; gaffe; germanhistory; heilobama; hitler; nazi; obama; obamasbigadventure; obamavisit; redbrowngreenaxis; victorycolumn
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1 posted on 07/20/2008 10:13:42 AM PDT by kristinn
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I may suggest an alternative for the Glorious Leader Obama the Holy: go make a speech at Völkerschlachtdenkmal in Leipzig. That would do it.

One, only slightly more famous, Glorious Leader loved the place.

2 posted on 07/20/2008 10:17:55 AM PDT by alecqss
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To: kristinn

Did Obama sleep through all his history classes?


3 posted on 07/20/2008 10:19:14 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: kristinn; LS
Well, I think the fascist symbolism is appropriate. It also indicates Obama’s lack of historical knowledge. FDR and Churchill would roll over in their graves.
4 posted on 07/20/2008 10:19:39 AM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: kristinn

“Ich Bin Ein Berlinner”

JFK’s landmark cold war speech.

I believe many of John F. Kennedy’s early 1960’s policy positions would place him somewhat to the right of John McCain.


5 posted on 07/20/2008 10:21:23 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: kristinn

This guy will have a world war started within his first three months in office. He reminds me of Inspector Clouseau.


6 posted on 07/20/2008 10:22:52 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: kristinn
Like a true Marxist, symbolism is an important component of B Hussein Obama’s persona.
7 posted on 07/20/2008 10:23:03 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: kristinn

I don’t know why Obama is even giving a speech to the people of Germany; what a dolt.

I think this speech will backfire on him; if I was Merkle I would give Obama an option....you can meet with me, or you can give a speech, but you can’t do both.

His ego far surpasses his ability.


8 posted on 07/20/2008 10:25:37 AM PDT by Laverne
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
He reminds me of Inspector Clouseau.

At least Clouseau bumbles his way to a successful outcome. I don't see that happening to B Hussein.

9 posted on 07/20/2008 10:25:50 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: alecqss
How about the Fuhrer Platform at Nuremburg...


10 posted on 07/20/2008 10:25:59 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: kristinn

“Ik been ein beginner.” (sic, sic, sic, &sic)


11 posted on 07/20/2008 10:26:53 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (His Negritude has made his negritude the central theme of this campaign)
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12 posted on 07/20/2008 10:27:35 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: kristinn

What’s next, the Obama Youth?


13 posted on 07/20/2008 10:30:17 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: kristinn

14 posted on 07/20/2008 10:30:41 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Kozak

Would do nicely, too. Could be a good rehearsal for that nomination acceptance Nuremberg-style rally in Denver he wants so much.

I only suggested Volkerschlachtdenkmal as a start...


15 posted on 07/20/2008 10:31:34 AM PDT by alecqss
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To: Blogger
Already done: Kids for Obama
16 posted on 07/20/2008 10:32:28 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Non-Sequitur

In grade school, he was probably too busy praying towards Mecca... five times a day.


17 posted on 07/20/2008 10:36:26 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Obamamaniacs idiot's one and all !)
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To: kristinn

I wonder if he’ll end up throwing this venue under the bus.

Have we ever seen so much adulation devoted to someone so entirely undeserving?


18 posted on 07/20/2008 10:37:28 AM PDT by Aria (Obama: Potluck for President! "I serve as a blank screen on which people..project their own views")
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To: jimbo123

yikes!

For a moment I thought someone Photoshoped Obumbler into that picture.


19 posted on 07/20/2008 10:37:39 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (USA: Ticking off lesser nations since 1776. Now in our 232 year of business!)
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To: EyeGuy

Someone coined the phrase ich bin ein beginner-don’t know if it was someone on this site.
It is funny but sadly true.


20 posted on 07/20/2008 10:38:23 AM PDT by pugmama
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