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Murder Suspect Should Have Been Deported (Cop Killer)
nbc-2.com ^
| July 19, 2008
Posted on 07/20/2008 10:11:11 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
LEE COUNTY: The man who murdered a Fort Myers police officer Friday night shouldnt have even been in the United States, according to police.
Arango entered the United States in 1991 as a refugee from Cuba. In 2000, he was convicted of a felony and ordered to be deported.
But he was never deported.
Arango just stayed at a detention center until 2004 when he was released on an order of supervision.
Fort Myers police say I.C.E. doesn't have probation officers to follow people released on an order of supervision.
So, in other words: Arango was set free.
(Excerpt) Read more at nbc-2.com ...
TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: aliens; copkiller; crimaliens; criminalaliens; deportation; ice; immigrantlist
To: Free ThinkerNY
Who the hell IS IN jail these days? If we don't have the will or the means to keep a person like this locked up, or sent packing, then who is taking up all the space in our jails?
We had best be about finding a way to protect ourselves from these miscreants or it's going to be too later for our nation. Just imagine this one example, times the 3,500 counties in America.
My son is in law enforcement. He told me that at any given time there are nearly a HALF-MILLION outstanding felony warrants in the State of Florida. That means 500,000 people who have no business on the streets out wandering around available, and all too often willing, to kill a police officer or your wife or my daughter, etc.
Why do we tolerate this? How is it that time after time we hear of violent crimes that turn out to have been committed by someone who wasn't ever supposed to be here or should have been in jail.
To: Free ThinkerNY
I would give odds that he voted Democrat in 2006.
The Democrat Party loves things such as this.
Why otherwise decent individuals vote for Democrats is beyond my power of comprehension.
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posted on
07/20/2008 10:23:19 AM PDT
by
sport
To: jwparkerjr
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posted on
07/20/2008 10:28:16 AM PDT
by
radar101
To: radar101
Wow, a million thanks! That’s a pretty sobering site isn’t it?
To: jwparkerjr
"Why do we tolerate this? ""there are nearly a HALF-MILLION outstanding felony warrants in the State of Florida
You may have provided the answer to your own question. Have you ever considered the volume of equipment and personnel required to apprehend and incarcerate 1/2 million people?
Perhaps the judicial, executive and legislative departments need to interview some of the people to ascertain how they want the problem solved.
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posted on
07/20/2008 10:51:48 AM PDT
by
An Old Man
("The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress." Douglas)
To: jwparkerjr; An Old Man
A half million felony warrants doesn't mean a half million people. From what I understand one person can have multiple felony warrants out for them for various felony's committed. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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posted on
07/20/2008 11:58:42 AM PDT
by
BBell
To: Free ThinkerNY
I know I made Lindsey Graham upset and he even mentioned on the Senate floor that “some are advocating shooting illegal aliens.” Well, it was I who said we'd only have to shoot a few of them and then they'd stop sneaking in.
It's heartless of me, but there are some people who just need killing. Illegal criminals top that list for me. And illegals who kill cops should have all their rights removed immediately upon conviction (take them out and shoot them).
We have a death penalty for a reason. Now that we have DNA evidence, we should be executing those on death row within six months of their conviction. If we have collateral damage and kill a few “innocents” then so be it, but I don't think that someone convicted with DNA evidence is going to be ‘circumstantial’ so we empty our prisons by removing those criminals who are justly convicted.
I know, I'm a Catholic, how can I say something different from the Church's teaching about Life. Easy, someone who steals another person's future (aka kills) is ineligible to have a future. That's it.
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posted on
07/20/2008 2:28:06 PM PDT
by
HighlyOpinionated
(http://auntiecoosa.blogspot.com -- read, learn, blog, or get out of my way.)
To: BBell
Good point. Hadn’t really thought about it from that angle. Even if it’s only 200,000 or 2,000 it’s too darned many for my liking!
Thanks!
To: An Old Man
You bring up a good point. Sadly. I guess the rule is that any bad situation left alone long enough will become so bad that it can’t be fixed.
I like your idea though about getting up with these people and finding what’s what with them, and what can be done to clear up the record.
To: Free ThinkerNY
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posted on
07/20/2008 4:14:07 PM PDT
by
VOA
To: jwparkerjr
Who the hell IS IN jail these days?
I'm not in law enforcement or the legal establishment.
But something I heard forensic psychiatrist Park Dietz say a
few years ago has stuck with me.
I don't recall the exact numbers, but he said he had a theory of
why crime stats were improving:
we built more prisons and we put more criminals into them.
His simple suggestion for further improvement was "build
more prisons and use them".
Admittedly I can't recall the exact numbers but he said there
were maybe five million sociopathic criminals in the USA...
and only three to four million of them were locked up.
Thus Dietz's suggestion for further improvement is that we
need more jails to hold the rest and keep them away from
law-abiding society.
Oh, and yes...Park Dietz is considered a "prosecutorial witness"
in most of his cases.
And while I thought Dietz's explanation was simplistic...
I was given pause over a recent news item here in Mid-Missouri.
That something like of every seven traffic stops made by our
city cops and highway patrol...
one of those stops will be for someone with an outstanding warrant.
Maybe we do need to add a few rooms at the state pen for those
bad boys (and girls!).
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posted on
07/20/2008 4:25:40 PM PDT
by
VOA
To: jwparkerjr
"I guess the rule is that any bad situation left alone long enough will become so bad that it cant be fixed." Don't give up so soon, there is a solution just waiting to be applied.
Ask yourself:
- What is the problem?
- Is person or agency in charge of solving the problem part of the solution or a part of the problem?
- Can their efforts be redirected to solve the problem or is it time for them to go?
Then we start all over with a new problem.
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posted on
07/20/2008 4:32:18 PM PDT
by
An Old Man
("The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress." Douglas)
To: Free ThinkerNY
Can Cubans even be deported? There are a lot of countries we can’t deport people to. Often it’s because these countries won’t take them back. Sometimes I think it’s some sort of humanitarian thing because the people would be executed when they get back to their home country. I don’t believe, for instance, that Iranians are deported right now. And some communist countries in Southeast Asia won’t take back criminal aliens. When they can’t be deported, these people are put on supervised release and have to let ICE know where they are staying and check in once a month or they’ll be picked up. If their country will ever take them back they’ll get deported. If not they’ll stay in limbo forever. That’s why prosecutors should not take for granted that people will be deported and give them better deals thinking these people are gone anyway. Our prosecutors in my area don’t ever give aliens better deals than citizens. This guy in the article got 15 years in prison back in 1999. I wonder why he was out free? Maybe he made parole.
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posted on
07/21/2008 9:20:58 AM PDT
by
TKDietz
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