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Radio Host Michael Savage Says Autistic Kids Aren't Sick..."Just Brats"
AutismSpeaks.org ^ | July 18, 2008 | Steve and Ryan Young

Posted on 07/20/2008 6:50:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Ronaldus Magnus Reagan
Autism is probably a food related allergy (casein and wheat gluten) compounded by vitamin d deficiency. Autistic kids represent high seropositivity for autoantibodies to casein and gluten (83.3% and 50% respectively). Normal kids seropositivity for the same autoantibodies are represented at 10% and 6.7% respectively.

No compelling evidence exists to support the assertion of causality between the vaccines (MMR and TCVs) and autism.

The dramatic increases of autism cases would be expected given the low serum d scenarios with pregnant women of color in northern continents.

21 posted on 07/20/2008 7:16:49 AM PDT by kruss3 (Kruss3@gmail.cailomes)
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To: Always Right

There are a lot of “fraudulent” autistic children out there.

That’s probably what he was talking about. Savage likes to hear himself talk and is full of crap a lot of the time, but this seems to be way out of character.


22 posted on 07/20/2008 7:19:47 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: SeekAndFind

I would expect Savage to make the comment in relation to ADD because many times it is just an excuse for a hyperactive child. But not Autism.
I have a nephew who is Autistic. The child wants so badly to be like everyone else, but is trapped in his own world of attraction and distraction. His parents have become very strong people because of the challenges the son brings every minute of every day.

I never heard Savage say this alleged statement.


23 posted on 07/20/2008 7:20:39 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Probably in the context of over-medicating kids with behavior problems.
24 posted on 07/20/2008 7:28:16 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: SeekAndFind

When will people learn that Savage is not a conservative? He is a caricature of how they see conservatives!


25 posted on 07/20/2008 7:28:24 AM PDT by DakotaRed (Don't you wish you had supported a conservative when you had the chance?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The voice in their recording doesn’t even sound a thing like Savage. What would compel these morons to produce something like this? Also, can Savage take any legal action?


26 posted on 07/20/2008 7:28:36 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: AnAmericanMother
As to why this is going on -- follow the money. Federal money for treatment, schooling, etc. = more diagnoses.

Bingo! We have a winner. Schools get $$$$$$$ for every child diagnosed as "special". It's an open secret that learning disabled, autistic, etc. is waaay over diagnosed, in schools, at least. Schools also get $$$$$$ based on how many children qualify for free breakfast and lunch and are "in poverty"(rolls eyes). Cheating on these numbers is rampant. I'm not a fan of Savage but I've heard his rants like this before. He's full of hyperbole but he makes the point that, yes, some kids that my generation called "hyper" and "disruptive" (and some real brats) in class are now being labeled "autistic". He probably went overboard on his rant but I don't give anything from Media Matters a second thought.

27 posted on 07/20/2008 7:29:25 AM PDT by youturn (I'm learning to draw a fish. I suggest you do too.)
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To: Kleon

Media Matters? Consider the source.


28 posted on 07/20/2008 7:30:43 AM PDT by efs111 (Hasta La Vista, Baby!)
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To: xcamel
Media matters is on a jihad against free speech, and talk radio in particular.

Yea, where were they when Bill Maher famously said some years ago that "mentally retarded children should be equated to dogs because that's how they should be considered as".

29 posted on 07/20/2008 7:31:11 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus Reagan (Fight Socialism! Vote McCain '08!)
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To: o_zarkman44
I never heard Savage say this alleged statement.

The only problem is there is an AUDIO of Michael Savage.

Here's the link to it :

http://mediamatters.org/items/200807170005?f=h_top

Here are excerpts from the audio :

"Why was there an asthma epidemic amongst minority children? Because I'll tell you why: The children got extra welfare if they were disabled, and they got extra help in school. It was a money racket. Everyone went in and was told [fake cough], "When the nurse looks at you, you go [fake cough], "I don't know, the dust got me." "See, everyone had asthma from the minority community."

"[a] fraud, a racket. ... I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is. What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, 'Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot.' "
30 posted on 07/20/2008 7:31:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Kleon
The voice in their recording doesn’t even sound a thing like Savage.

So, you're saying that this is a high tech production made by Media Matters ? If so, Michael Savage has a strong case for taking legal action.

Is there anyone out there who actually heard Savage make this statement in his radio show ?
31 posted on 07/20/2008 7:33:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
I’ve written for years about the problems I’ve had with talk radio...

Key phrase. Leftist bastard.

32 posted on 07/20/2008 7:33:39 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: Ronaldus Magnus Reagan
As Rosie O'Donnell famously said to Bill O'Reilly many years ago, "if you are on the air for many years, you are bound to say something stupid"

Savage seems to do it every time I listen.

33 posted on 07/20/2008 7:34:05 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (If given a choice between a POW and a POS, I'll take the POW.)
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To: Kleon
here's what Savage really said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0U7HjzUe54

34 posted on 07/20/2008 7:34:12 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus Reagan (Fight Socialism! Vote McCain '08!)
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To: SeekAndFind
So, you're saying that this is a high tech production made by Media Matters ? If so, Michael Savage has a strong case for taking legal action.

Either that, or someone is taking these people for a ride, and MM is falling for it.

35 posted on 07/20/2008 7:34:28 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
There are over 100 conditions that are now included under the umbrella of "Autism Spectrum". Some conditions are misdiagnosed as Autism, such as "Late Talkers" and genius.

My 4 year old grandson was diagnosed with a mild form of Autism, but is now beginning to say a few specific words. He uses sign language mostly. He has very specific interests.

I have doubted his Autism diagnoses from the beginning, but I'm not an authority by any means, so we'll see.

36 posted on 07/20/2008 7:36:42 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: DakotaRed
When will people learn that Savage is not a conservative? He is a caricature of how they see conservatives!

I would say Michael Savage is who he is. He has some opinions that are "conservative", but also holds opinions that some might classify as liberal. Whatever it is, the man does open himself up to misinterpretation because of his tendency towards saying things that offend people.
37 posted on 07/20/2008 7:36:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
"Of course, he’s rich and famous now because he invented Bit Torrent"

Wow, that's awesome!! Did you know him?

38 posted on 07/20/2008 7:37:06 AM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Kleon; SeekAndFind
The voice in their recording doesn’t even sound a thing like Savage

This one does.

In my view, Savage was exaggerating when he said "in 99% of the cases..." Then again, anyone who listens to his show on a regular basis knows he's no stranger to exaggerating to make a point. It's part of his schtick.

39 posted on 07/20/2008 7:39:42 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: YellowRoseofTx

The conservative black columnist and professor, Thomas Sowell has his own take on autism.

See here :

http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080720/OPINION/807200379/1015/OPINION

“New Ways to Diagnose Autism Earlier” read a recent headline in the Wall Street Journal. There is no question that you can diagnose anything as early as you want. The real question is whether the diagnosis will turn out to be correct.

My own awareness of how easy it is to make false diagnoses of autism grew out of experiences with a group of parents of late-talking children that I formed back in 1993.

A number of those children were diagnosed as autistic. But the passing years have shown most of the diagnoses to have been false, as most of these children have not only begun talking but have developed socially.

Some parents have even said, “Now I wish he would shut up.”

I did absolutely nothing to produce these results. As a layman, I refused to diagnose these children, much less suggest any treatment, even though many parents wanted such advice.

As word of my group spread, various parents would write to ask if they could bring their child to me to seek my impression or advice. I declined every time.

Yet, if I had concocted some half-baked method of diagnosing and treating these children, I could now claim a high rate of success in “curing” autism, based on case studies. Perhaps my success rate would be as high as that claimed by various programs being touted in the media.

If a child is not autistic to begin with, almost anything will “cure” him with the passage of time.

My work brought me into contact with Professor Stephen Camarata of Vanderbilt University, who has specialized in the study of late-talking children - and who is qualified to diagnose autism.

Professor Camarata has organized his own group of parents of late-talking children, which has grown to hundreds, as compared to the several dozen children in my group. Yet the kinds of children and the kinds of families are remarkably similar in the two groups, in ways spelled out in my book “The Einstein Syndrome.”

The difference is that Professor Camarata is not a layman but a dedicated professional, with decades of experience - and he too has expressed dismay at the number of false diagnoses of autism that he has encountered.

What Camarata has also encountered is something that I encountered in my smaller group - parents who have been told to allow their child to be diagnosed as autistic, in order to become eligible for government money that is available, and can be used for speech therapy or whatever other treatment the child might need.

How much this may have contributed to the soaring statistics on the number of children diagnosed as autistic is something that nobody knows - and apparently not many people are talking about it.

Another factor in the great increase in the number of children diagnosed as autistic is a growing practice of referring to children as being on “the autistic spectrum.”

In other words, a child may not actually be autistic but has a number of characteristics common among autistic children. The problem with this approach is that lots of children who are not autistic have characteristics that are common among autistic children.

For example, a study of high-IQ children by Professor Ellen Winner of Boston College found these children to have “obsessive interests” and “often play alone and enjoy solitude,” as well as being children who “seem to march to their own drummer” and have “prodigious memories.” Many of the children in my group and in Professor Camarata’s group have these characteristics.

Those who diagnose children by running down a checklist of “symptoms” can find many apparently “autistic” children or children on “the autism spectrum.”

Parents need to be spared the emotional trauma of false diagnoses and children need to be spared stressful treatments that follow false diagnoses. Yet the “autism spectrum” concept provides lots of wiggle room for those who are making false diagnoses.

Real autism may not get as much money as it needs if much of that money is dissipated on children who are not in fact autistic. But money is money to those who are running research projects - and a gullible media helps them get that money.


40 posted on 07/20/2008 7:39:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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