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Cuba hands over state lands
BBC via Youtube ^ | 7/19/2008

Posted on 07/19/2008 7:05:18 AM PDT by uglybiker

Cuban President Raul Castro is giving over more state-owned land to private owners.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4xLR4g7wcN8


TOPICS: Cuba; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: glasnost; perestroika; privateproperty; privatization; realestate; realproperty

1 posted on 07/19/2008 7:05:19 AM PDT by uglybiker
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To: uglybiker
... but only to those who are, shall we say, connected... or at least loyal.

Communism is such a wonderful idea.... if only we could get rid of that pesky "human nature" stuff. You know... love, envy, pride, wanting to help those you know more than those you don't... those silly ideas.

2 posted on 07/19/2008 7:13:48 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Thank you Dith Pran for showing us what Communism brings)
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To: Teacher317
Well, some pigs are more equal than others.
3 posted on 07/19/2008 7:28:11 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: uglybiker

It is stories like this that just annoy me to no end. These people (communists/socialists) take resources and “the means of production” away from the people and destroy entire economies and countries just to realize 50 years later that their “little experiment” does not work.

How many more USSRs and Cubas does the world have to suffer through before all of the socialists out there realize that their schema does not work?

JoMa


4 posted on 07/19/2008 7:36:32 AM PDT by joma89
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To: uglybiker

Depends on who the private owners are I would say.


5 posted on 07/19/2008 7:39:05 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Teacher317

I understand you are probably just being sarcastic. But I’m taking this opportunity to comment on something I think should be repeated.

Even in a theoretical world with 100% altruism, communism is wrong and a horrible idea because it takes credit away. That is, it takes away private property which is rightly earned.

Communism would be horrible even if it worked exactly like the most perfect version we could imagine.


6 posted on 07/19/2008 7:40:17 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Liberalism is service to the self disguised as service to others.)
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To: Teacher317
Sounds like Raul is showing a glimmer of pragmatism.

Anything to help the regime hold out a little longer....

7 posted on 07/19/2008 7:44:03 AM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: uglybiker

Those “private owners” are just Communist Party hacks who will treat their workers like serfs to enrich themselves.


8 posted on 07/19/2008 7:48:25 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: uglybiker

Lot of old car collectors are probably licking their chops.


9 posted on 07/19/2008 7:49:52 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: uglybiker

So now they’ll have private ownership under an authoritarian dictatorship. Precisely what they had before Castro’s revolution.


10 posted on 07/19/2008 8:34:35 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Boycott Washington D.C. until they allow gun ownership)
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To: reasonisfaith
Even in a theoetical world with 100% altruism, communism is wrong and a horrible idea because it takes credit away. That is, it takes away private property which is rightly earned.

Private property, credit, and earned property are only important to those with human emotions. Once those are forced to conform the way that the Left wants, Communism will work just fine. It just won't have any elements of Freedom, humanity, or happiness. Other than that, it will work just fine.

I admit to the sarcasm, but the points I'm making are also proper logical extensions.

In point of fact, Communism works perfectly fine in America today... but only at the smallest levels. A young new family (working wife, house-husband, and 2.3 young 'uns) are a perfect example. She earns, but every benefits equally. Everyone's needs are met, but all is taken from the one provider. When love, cooperation, and harmony can be taken for granted (mostly), then the system can be workable. However, on any scale above the family unit, it's a virtual guarantee that failure will result. There is no shortage of examples here in the US. Hippie Communes were "in" for a little while, but even with those most ardent adherents to the ideal, it still failed... because you cannot force a person to care as much for his neighbors as for their own family (blood is thicker than water, envy, etc), you cannot stop laziness from inducing some to work less when they know they will retain the same lifestyle (profit incentive, pride from earning, etc), and you cannot avoid the fact that a central power will have to do the distribution and favoritism will inevitably corrput the system.

Within a family, these human traits can be countered (or dealt with, or ignored), but on any larger scale, they are insurmountable... as every "experiment" in Communism hath shewn.

11 posted on 07/19/2008 8:47:12 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Thank you Dith Pran for showing us what Communism brings)
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To: Teacher317

I’m arguing that communism is a moral failure much more than a practical failure.

In practical terms, sure it could “work” in some conceivable though extremely difficult to attain and infinitely undesirable scenario.

But morally speaking, the corruption of communism is absolute starting at square one.


12 posted on 07/19/2008 10:55:03 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Liberalism is service to the self disguised as service to others.)
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To: neodad

Cuba is a gold mine. Imagine if Raul stepped down or allowed direct foreign investment.


13 posted on 07/19/2008 11:15:43 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (BARACK OBAMA WILL SAVE US! HE HAS RISEN!!)
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To: joma89
before all of the socialists out there realize that their schema does not work?

Hugo is finding that out right now...

14 posted on 07/19/2008 1:42:23 PM PDT by John123 (Obambi said that he has been in 57 states. I will now light myself on fire...)
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To: uglybiker
Cuba hands over state lands

Now, if we could just get the US Government to do the same thing.

15 posted on 07/19/2008 7:48:22 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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