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A different pattern of sea ice retreat
National Snow and Ice Data Center ^ | July 17, 2008

Posted on 07/18/2008 5:25:35 AM PDT by gusopol3

Arctic sea ice extent on July 16 fell roughly between the extent for the same day in 2007 and the long-term average. The spatial pattern of summer ice loss has evolved differently from last year; this reflects the prevailing pattern of atmospheric circulation. Areas of low-concentration ice are also developing at unusually high latitudes.

Note: Analysis updates, unless otherwise noted, now show a single-day extent value for Figure 1, as opposed to the standard monthly average. While monthly average extent images are more accurate in understanding long-term changes, the daily images are helpful in monitoring sea ice conditions in near-real time.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arcticice; climatechange; environment; globalwarming
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This was supposed to be the year the ice cap would completely melt, and were they ever triumphant on July 1, when the melt appeared to be tracking with 2007. Ahem. A little revision of the model is now in order, but they're ready for it! (Did you ever do this in high school when a science experiment didn't turn out quite right?)
1 posted on 07/18/2008 5:25:35 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3

No matter what happens, global warming is proven. Really a quite amazing theory as it explains everything perfectly after the fact.


2 posted on 07/18/2008 5:33:41 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Always Right

Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it with probability 1.00000000000000000000.


3 posted on 07/18/2008 5:39:00 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Hillary to Obama: Arkancide happens.)
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To: Always Right

you may be a candidate for re-education come 09.01.20.


4 posted on 07/18/2008 5:40:15 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
but it needed to happen this year!
5 posted on 07/18/2008 5:41:13 AM PDT by gusopol3
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Do the Arctic underwater volcanos have anything to do with this “record melt”? (Underwater volcanos have nothing to do with it. It’s all caused by Americans burning carbon fuels.)

Why is it that last year’s “record melt” re-froze so nicely to normal area last winter? (Underwater volcanos. Everyone knows that hot water freezes before cold water.)


6 posted on 07/18/2008 5:45:44 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Blaming CO2 for global warming is like blaming your thermometer for your kid's fever.)
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underwater volcanos

did you ever stop to think global warming may be responsible for underwater volcanoes ?( Dan Quayle and learned our spelling together)

7 posted on 07/18/2008 5:51:59 AM PDT by gusopol3
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Because this is a leap year, the same date this year is actually about 3/4 of a day further along in the season than the same day last year. (In common years, the calendar runs about a 1/4 day slow per year, after three such years, it “leaps” ahead 3/4 (3/4 = 1 - 1/4) of a day, more or less keeping the calendar in sync with the seasons, long term.)


8 posted on 07/18/2008 5:52:52 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Hillary to Obama: Arkancide happens.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

John Jacob Astor had a plan to straighten the axis of the earth (eliminate the tilt) . That would have pretty much taken care of things. Of course, the cost would be prohibitive now.


9 posted on 07/18/2008 5:56:42 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
"Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it."

I may have to steal that for a tag line.

10 posted on 07/18/2008 6:05:13 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it)
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"the most extreme decline [in sea ice is] seen in the summer melt season."

These guys are particularly brilliant, are they not?

11 posted on 07/18/2008 6:10:22 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it)
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Was that John Jacob Astor IV? There were at least six.

The rotational rate of the earth slows down by about 0.002 seconds per day per century, due to tidally induced transfer from earth's rotational angular momentum to the moon's orbit. The rate of energy transfer is about one gigawatt.

The amount of energy (and mass) required to "eliminate the tilt" is staggering. It is probably not possible to do at any cost. (We might as well eliminate the eccentricity of the earth's orbit while we're at it.)

The effects of eliminating seasons would be disasterous, short term. Maybe he should have concentrated on something more practical, like maritime safety.

12 posted on 07/18/2008 6:15:37 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Hillary to Obama: Arkancide happens.)
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Permission granted. And it is original with me (as is “The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for Necro-Americans”), though I’m sure it’s occured to others.


13 posted on 07/18/2008 6:18:58 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Hillary to Obama: Arkancide happens.)
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he should have concentrated on something more practical

you're right, Tesla tried to get him to fund Wardenclyffe. (I'm not even sure whether I'm being sarcastic or not)

14 posted on 07/18/2008 6:22:20 AM PDT by gusopol3
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http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=07&fd=17&fy=2007&sm=07&sd=17&sy=2008

Last year july 17 vs july 17, 2008. Pictures are worth a thousand words. Please note Hudson Bay is still not ice free this year when it was already in June last year. Also, the Siberian weather this year has been much colder than last summer and thus much less melting of sea ice along Russian Coast. No matter, the Branch Algorians have changed the mantra to ‘climate change’ anyways.


15 posted on 07/18/2008 6:28:20 AM PDT by milwguy (........)
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Pictures are worth a thousand words

so why are posting pictures of a giant red tide? Wouldn't be tryin' to induce a little mass hysteria to help the McCain campaign would ya?

16 posted on 07/18/2008 6:32:38 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: gusopol3

I think we referred to it as the “fudge factor”...


17 posted on 07/18/2008 6:36:03 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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Actually it was him and another guy, which makes it a half-Astor idea...sorry.


18 posted on 07/18/2008 6:37:49 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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Of course, the cost would be prohibitive now.

Thank goodness for that!

19 posted on 07/18/2008 6:38:34 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: jagusafr

trouble is, now that sounds like a voting bloc


20 posted on 07/18/2008 6:38:35 AM PDT by gusopol3
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