Myth of Consensus Explodes: APS Opens Debate On Global Warming

Daily Tech ^ | 7/16/2008 | Michael Asher, Daily Tech

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[It’s algore day in DC!]

Are they celebrating, lol? I just read on Drudge about the 10 year goal to change all energy. Hope he told his son he’ll have to put a windmill on top of his car to get around!

Just read that O’Reilly said ‘some weasel’ let out the rest of the tape about Jackson. My, bet he was surprised...

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Jesse “Big Daddy” Jackson

Let’s not expose him as worse than the uninformed &/or ignorant thought he was/is

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Of course global warming is now up for debate. The watermelons have almost gotten “climate change” into the national memespace and will now use THAT phrase to push marxist in a green envelope.

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It turns out that what he actually said was: “See, Barack been, um, talking down to black people on this faith-based –I wanna cut his n-— out. … Barack – he’s talking down to black people — telling n———s how to behave.”

In my mind, almost everything he's been involve with has been controversial.

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Millions of years to climb out of the mud

Then some just delight in wallowing in the mud again

Midnight basketball in the White House anyone?

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[Midnight basketball in the White House anyone?]

Ahh, you need to go look at the Drudge Report. Several articles about Obama working out! Buff, Fit for Fall, some of the headlines.

Fit for a fall sounds better, lol.

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Drudge has a tingle up his leg

Chris Matthews for Slick Willie a few years ago

Matthews for Obama now

Very odd

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Drudge boosting Obama now, huh? He doesn’t write his own articles so it’s hard to pin him down. He also has one about Bubba being ready to campaign for Obama.

I don’t watch Chris Matthews so am not as familiar with his manner.

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[ It’s 50,000 physicists in the APS apparently, not 10,000.]

That s a lot of Physics..

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As I said -

Odd

Obama is so anti-Freedom of the Press

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You keep up with all of them and are familiar with the ‘goings ons’. Plus you listen to Rush and others and learn from them what you didn’t already know.

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Wichita Falls, Texas would hit 117°F (48°C), the highest temperature ever recorded in that city to date.

I have no doubt that it can get that hot in Texas but it NEVER gets anywhere near that hot in any of the northern cities (also located on bodies of water) that poster PhilCollins mentioned. See #49.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

How do you know that the Earth revolves around the sun and rotates on its polar axis? How do you know that the earth isn’t flat?

How much direct evidence do you have, how familiar are you with the details? Most of our knowledge, especially about “Science with a capital S” is second- or third- or nth-hand. The vast majority of people who scoff at flat earthers cannot site any evidence (barring photographs taken of the earth from space) for their belief in a spherical or ellisoidal of other geometrically shaped earth.

As late as the 1880s the chemistry department of the University of Paris tried to keep the number of professors who advocated atomic theory of matter balanced with those opposed. The Bohr atom (mini solar system) only dates from the early 20th century.

A great number of the things that we take for granted as settled, are only known through indirect and inferrential evidence. A great body of evidence, all of it self consistent and verified daily by experience, but subtle nonetheless.

Global Warming Theory (or hypothesis) is in no way central to our understanding of science, physics, meteorology or climatology. Rather, it is deduced from more fundamental principles. Its lay adherents exhibit intellectual habits more consistent with religous cultists or political zealots than the open mindedness and curiousity that is supposed to be the hallmark of modern science.

That “accredited” scientists fall into thrall with religous or political aspects of Global Warming Theory says more about scientific accrediation than it does about science. Many scientists are fustrated, unfullfilled and blame the “system” for failing to bestow on them the status and wealth they feel they deserve. They view the world with religous or political eyes and are really advocates of a particular position (positions whose vindication will bestow status and wealth on them) rather than impartial judges of facts.

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I feel the same way. But my confidence was already partly undermined by the Y2K bug hoax, which was extensively promoted by computer scientists, and no one would call it a hoax.