Unlike what the RINO-whining-crying-coverup Romney, Pres. Reagan --a true conservative-- actually won in Massachusetts,
because unlike a fake-'conservative'-Romney, Reagan was the REAL THING.
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Posted on 07/16/2008 3:29:43 PM PDT by Plutarch
On Monday night, at a fund-raiser in New Mexico, John McCain said this about his former mortal enemy, Mitt Romney: “I’m appreciative every time I see Mitt on television on my behalf. He does a better job for me than he did for himself as a matter of fact.” This may not have been a joke.
Yesterday, Romney sat down for an interview with CBS News. It is a striking interview, in part because Romney seems to be making the McCain argument better than McCain, or McCain's campaign. There is a clarity to the soundbites that McCain has mostly lacked, a clear line of attack against Obama's experience and McCain's plans. Add to that whatever fundraising burst Romney could provide as a VP candidate, as well as Romney's strength in key swing states like Michigan and Nevada, and it's not hard to see why McCain may end up with a running mate whose hand he didn't shake in the primaries.
[See video at link]
EXCEPT: Mitt says in the interview that McCain distinguishes himself from Obama on drilling in the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge. This is wrong, according to the latest McCain statements. Both McCain and Obama oppose drilling in ANWR.
(Excerpt) Read more at time-blog.com ...
“I am not expecting him to, Barbour won’t do it anyways, he is committed to finishing his term here.”
Congrats on having a great Governor. And IMHO he was the best RNC head the GOP had in the past generation. (He was in during the mid-1990s.)
He is a personal favorite.
Unlike what the RINO-whining-crying-coverup Romney, Pres. Reagan --a true conservative-- actually won in Massachusetts,
because unlike a fake-'conservative'-Romney, Reagan was the REAL THING.
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“We went over it EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. back months ago. It’s like Dracula rising from the coffin. “
Yes, your false claims and smears against Romney and attacks on anyone who dares defend him, repeated again and again, are like a vampire that wont crawl back in the coffin.
“I’ll keep confronting you guys with facts and truth as long as you keep posting the falsehoods and the “MYTHS” about Slick Willard”
Please, take your medications. You are hallucinating again and have it all upside down.
I had no idea Reagan only won by 13 electoral votes - a real pitcher’s duel, that one
Can you read?
Another manifestation of the morass left by RINO Romney,
and a warning to those who support RINOs, everywhere.
“The Massachusetts Republican Party died last Tuesday.
The cause of death: failed leadership.
The party is survived by a few leftover legislators
and a handful of county officials and grassroots activists
who have been ignored for years.
Services will be public and a mass exodus of taxpayers will follow.
In lieu of flowers, send messages to New Hampshire Republican voters
warning them about a certain presidential candidate named Romney.”
- Boston Herald, 11/12/2006
"In 2006, while Romney was chairman of the National Republican
Governors Association - a group dedicated to electing more
Republican governors - his own hand-picked Republican successor
as governor lost badly to the Democrat, despite the fact that Republicans
have held the governorship in Massachusetts since 1990. Romney largely
ignored the Massachusetts elections and spent most of the time
during the campaign out of state building his presidential campaign.
He came back and publicly campaigned for the Republican candidate
the day before the general election!
“Locally, this is a rebuke to Mitt Romney and checking out within six months
after being elected and having accomplished almost nothing,”
[Jim] Rappaport [former chairman of the state Republican Party]."
- Boston Globe, 11/8/2006
Romney let the GOP (who elected him) slide, and these beautiful people were forced to die.
Let's let Romney do to America what he did to Massachusetts and his other victims. [/s]
Oh and BTW, that chart of yours actually PROVES MY POINT.
Checking wikipedia here ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election%2C_1984#Results
... we find that Mondale’s second best state after his own home state of Minnesota was ... Massachusetts.
Close states
[17][18]Margin of victory less than 5%
1. Minnesota, 0.18% (For Mondale)
2. Massachusetts, 2.79% (for Reagan)
The mystery of why Massachusetts is such a Democrat state can be found in the election of 1928:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election%2C_1928
Since 1928, when Democrats ran their first Catholic Presidential candidate, Massachusetts has gone for the Democrats in every Presidential election except for the landslide victories of Eisenhower in 1952 and 1956 and Reagan landslide in 1984. They are one of the most reliably Democratic states.
More lunatic robo-spam-cr*p posting that is completely besides the point made previous.
“Romney personally destroyed the MASS GOP.
Can you read?”
Better than you apparently. I have successfully refuted that laughably inaccurate claim, and your post doesnt refute it one iota.
Your drive-by bashing makes you look like a nutcase. Is that what you want? I much appreciated your articles with the pictures of the day from Iraq and GWOT, but this garbage ... every post you make repeating the same old tired smears doesn’t change my opinion of Romney, but lowers my opinion of you.
Mitt Romney haters are going nuts! And how some of them lie! They include Democrats pretending to be conservatives, nutcases, bigots, and the open border supporters.
Mitt is so perfect I can't see how any sane person could have any issues with him....
The organized effort to push Mitt around in the south is frankly what campaigns are all about. Campaigns aren't about passivity. That's part of why Fred never got much traction, way too passive. Mitt's supporters needed to push. Could they have done that in a different way? Perhaps. He did just fine out here in the west. The south is a different beast, & perhaps should have been handled differently, you would know better than I. With clients I talked to in the south, most really liked Mitt a lot & felt many others did as well. There was a rabid minority (much like that found here on FR) that weren't going to give him the time of day no matter what he believed or had done due to his religion. His past in Mass. just exacerbated that problem w/ a comparative few.
As stated earlier, Romney garnered the majority of the conservative vote. McCain won on the backs of the Dem's & Indy's. Fred was highly respected here, & may have, at some point had my vote. But he was always a non starter from start to finish. No fire in the belly & a terrible campaigner. If anyone was late to the dance, it was our good friend Fred. Some Mitt supporters got a little over the top w/ their support, but it was usually after being lambasted for that support. Fred supporters often did likewise, as did Hunter supporters, Tancredo supporters, etc. It's part of the beast.
Although we disagree, I think there are great parallels w/ Reagan. Remember, Reagan never had to deal w/ the Internet. Had he had to deal w/ boards such as this during his runs, things might have been far different as far as perception. He still would have won, he was Reagan after all. He always had my support. But he might not have had the support of as many before the first Pres. campaign. Those issues I delineated as well as many others that we could bring up, would have been major stumbling blocks in today's day & age. Reagan was not perfect. Nor is Romney. Romney is no Reagan, nobody in the race was. But I believe he would have/could be a great leader for this country none the less.
Reagan demonstrated a life of conservative credentials, you're right for the most part. However, so has Romney. His life is exemplary by conservative standards. Reagan too made course corrections through his political life. Taxes being one of them. His political life was hardly the straight course you espouse. He was a Dem. 4 short years before running for Governor. He changed a lot during his career. Those changes led him to be the ultimate conservative, but he didn't start out that way. The most important thing for me in regards to Mitt now, is where he stands now, not where he was years ago. Many Reagan supporters had to come to the same conclusion.
Lastly, as far as Mitt being the Conservative stalwart and worthy of the lavish praise of these luminaries is concerned, remember, these “Luminaries” have lambasted McCain for the better part & did likewise in many cases w/ Huckabee as well. They're not afraid to go after RINO’s. If Romney was really the RINO that a very few here think he is, why would these bedrock conservatives have stopped w/ McCain & Huckabee? Why wouldn't they have thrown all their support behind Fred, Duncan, etc.? Could it be that they knew Romney was a conservative as well, & he was the best candidate?
Just food for thought. Again, thanks for the reasoned discussion. I appreciate your thoughts & insights even though we may disagree on some.
Interesting defense. We now have a poster on this thread who is accusing Romney of being responsible for the murder of people. See post #487.
As I stated last night, Romney has legitimate issues worth discussing—some which you raised above in contrast to Reagan; however, any thoughtful discussion is drowned out by the “loons” accusing Romney of being reponsible for murder.
Fregards
Friday, December 28, 2007 - Boston Herald
"Former Gov. Mitt Romney’s administration failed to act on disciplinary recommendations
that would have kept ex-con killer Daniel Tavares locked up another year -
and behind bars at the time he was accused of killing a newlywed couple in Washington state."
"Despite Tavares’ long history of violence, the Romney-led Department of Correction
took no action on recommendations that he be stripped of “good time” because
of assaults on prison guards in 2003 and 2005, said sources familiar with a state probe into the case."
Fiance: Brutish Tavares robbed me of my bride Killer tied to woman’s unsolved 1988 murder
Sunday, December 2, 2007
"The man engaged to marry Ann M. Tavares before she was stabbed to death at the hands of her brutish son described exclusively to the Herald yesterday how his happy-go-lucky fiancee died in his arms as he declared that he loved her.
“She died in my arms. I told her I loved her and that was it,” said Norman Sirois, 63,
who still does not know why Daniel T. Tavares- now accused of killing a Washington state couple - stabbed his mother 26 times
with a carving knife July 10, 1991.
The death of Tavares, a mother of four, left Sirois with deep psychological wounds.
In the wake of her slaying, he said, he returned the Somerset house they bought together to the bank. At one point, Sirois said,
he felt so isolated and despondent he tried to commit suicide.
Sirois, who is now married, said he didn’t know that Tavares, 41, had been released from a Massachusetts state prison
until his slain fiancee’s brother-in-law called to tell him about the execution-style deaths of Beverly and Brian Mauck in Graham, Wash., on Nov. 18.
“I would just like an apology from the court. Why did they not tell me he was out?
They let me know all this time he was in,” said Sirois, who lives in Rhode Island.
The day of his fiancee’s death, Sirois recalled driving with her to a bar in Tiverton, R.I.,
to pick up Tavares, then 25, who had called his mother to ask for a ride.
“He looked awfully strange - not saying a word but like he wanted to talk.
But he couldn’t talk,” Sirois recalled.
When they got to their home in Somerset, Sirois said he went to his bedroom on the first floor.
Daniel Tavares’ bedroom was upstairs.
“All the sudden, I hear ‘ba-ba-boom!’ ” said Sirois.
He said Tavares tried to trip him as he rushed upstairs, but that he managed to get a hold of the killer’s foot and knock him out of the way.
He found Ann Tavares, 46, whom he’d met several years before at a singles dance, lying on the floor in her son’s bedroom.
She was breathing heavily and Sirois said he did not see any blood. Her son was restrained by a friend, Richard Pires, who lived in the basement and suffered a stab wound to the side in the attack.
Sirois said he later learned from his fiancee’s boss that Tavares had called her 23 times at her job at Ideal Laundry in Fall River that same day.
Sirois said he was never satisfied with the plea bargain that locked up Tavares for manslaughter for 17 to 20 years.
Pires never pressed charges, he said.
“They arranged for him to go court. They plant him right in front of me, handcuffed. I was going to go berserk.
It’s bad enough that I lost my fiancee, but they are going to put him right in front of me when he was going to be arraigned?” Sirois said.
“He wanted my forgiveness. I just can’t forgive. We had a house, all our dreams, they went down the tubes in seconds.”
Sirois showed the Herald letters from the state Parole Board notifying him of Tavares’ parole hearings over the years.
In a June 1, 2007, letter, the Department of Correction’s Victim Service Unit notified Sirois that Tavares was scheduled for release June 14.
In a follow-up letter dated June 13, the DOC informed Sirois that Tavares was being handed over to Worcester County authorities on $100,000 bail on June 14.
Sirois said he was never notified of the bail reduction by Worcester Superior Court Judge Kathe M. Tuttman that let Tavares free on personal recognizance in July,
setting the stage for his flight to Washington.
“The judge released him without a bracelet on his leg.
At least you could keep track of him,” Sirois said.
Based on his interpretation of the transcript from the bail hearing, Sirois said the prosecutor should have given Tuttman more information.
“The prosecutor should have given her a lot more evidence,” he said. “She only had what she had in front of her.”
No one can predict the future.
But two predictions are reasonable. First, Romney will make bad pro-Democrat decisions.
Second, Romney-the-perpetual-victim-always-claiming-antimormornism has taken, and will take, no responsibility. Ever.
Romney aide’s bogus badges: Sources detail ‘illegal’ security tactic
" Boston Herald - Friday, July 20, 2007
In an apparent violation of the law, a controverisal aide to ex-Gov. Mitt Romney
created phony law enforcement badges that he and other staffers used on the campaign trail
to strong-arm reporters, avoid paying tolls and trick security guards
into giving them immediate access to campaign venues, sources told the Herald.
“They (the aides) knew the badges were fake and probably illegal,”
said a presidential campaign source who asked for anonymity
because the story could damage the individual’s career.
Two additional sources confirmed that the badges - described as bright silver plates with a state seal attached -
were first created and used by Garrity while Romney was still governor."
Actually I was mounting no defense...
But thanks anyways...
Even things that are “over the top” have a seed of truth in them in many cases. Reports, video and quotes do not lie.
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