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Why Black People Don’t Care that GOP Is Civil Rights Party
lashawnbarber.com ^ | July 16, 2008 | Bruce Bartlett

Posted on 07/16/2008 11:41:41 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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1 posted on 07/16/2008 11:41:42 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Gimmee_crats


2 posted on 07/16/2008 11:47:32 AM PDT by notaliberal (Christ Our Hope!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Leshawn knocked the ball out of the park on this one. She’s exactly right.


3 posted on 07/16/2008 11:51:33 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Hey, I don’t like the idea of playing race-based politics either, but simply abandoning the field to the Democrats because “blacks will never vote Republican” isn’t a whole lot less racist than Democrats pushing Affirmative Action because “blacks can’t succeed without help.”


4 posted on 07/16/2008 12:01:42 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Every 4 years we hear how this is the year the GOP will reach out to blacks after ignoring yada yada yada. Pllllllease. If the GOP would simply stay conservative, it will get its 10% and pick up more base voters. Every time they waffle to try to get a few extra votes from the other 90% that go democrat, they lose conservative votes both black and white.


5 posted on 07/16/2008 12:02:11 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I have met a few blacks who still vote Democrat even while acknowledging the failures and harm caused to Blacks by the welfare state. Not all Blacks are looking for which party promises them the most but they were taught and the media reinforces the message that the GOP is the racist party even when most evidence would refute the charge.
6 posted on 07/16/2008 12:02:51 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: puroresu
No one has to drive a wedge between blacks and Hispanics. The Hispanics are doing that themselves one killing at a time.

That's one of the big time stories of the day the MSM finds almost impossible to discuss.

7 posted on 07/16/2008 12:03:10 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

(But I need to break it you: blacks who vote for Democrats do not care about this history. The only bit of history they care about is the one that provides excuses and finger-pointing opportunities: ancestors in bondage, great-grandparents and grandparents struggling to gain first class citizenship in this country, etc. They don’t care who do did what to or for whom in the past. All they care about is who’s offering them the most goodies today.)

This must presume that these black folks are stupid if this is the reason they vote Democrat.
The Dems are not offering any goodies today, in th past or anytime in the future. What the Dems have offered blacks for the past 40 years, this year and for years to come are programs that keep them mired in poverty, trapped in cities, and given the lowest standard of education oppurtunity.
If someone had given me all of that for the past 40 years and was offering more today I surely would not vote for them.. However blacks as a group will this year and next and on and on do so and vote for the Dems.
There must be some other underlying reason that black folks continue to act not in their own best interest when it comes to voting and supporting a poltiical party.......


8 posted on 07/16/2008 12:04:37 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Got Freedom ? Thank a Veteran...... Want to keep Freedom? Don't vote Obama)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

LaShawn is correct. Good article from her.

Bartlett however seems to want to enjoin the pander fest. Conservative principles are universal. There are no specialized versions of it based upon special interest groups.


9 posted on 07/16/2008 12:04:59 PM PDT by AIM-54
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To: The Pack Knight

Defining people by race to get their vote is racism.


10 posted on 07/16/2008 12:06:50 PM PDT by donna ( I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth. - Barack Hussein Obama)
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J C Watts said that this year the Reachout is non-existent.


11 posted on 07/16/2008 12:07:26 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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Point taken and agreed. I don't think you'll hear most blacks admitting that the main reason they vote democrat is for the free cheese, but it's obviously the truth. I disagree about the wedge between hispanics and blacks though. I think their is and always be a wedge there. But! Majority will always vote the party of free cheese, namely the Rats, this will always be a common component between the two. But personally I see the mexicans as not thinking they are entitled near as much as many of the blacks I see. Not all mind you, but many believe they are owed for something that happened to their people generations ago. Well my and many families were discriminated against as well many years ago, but I want no freebies, I want to prove I can beat them at their own game. I believe when more blacks get this mindset they will become much more successful in this society.
12 posted on 07/16/2008 12:08:03 PM PDT by cla62
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To: donna
Blacks have legitimate grievances in this country, because they were defined by race. There's no way to address those grievances without referring to race.

I yield to no one in my disgust with the culture of victimhood promoted by the "Civil Rights Movement," but to pretend that blacks don't face any different problems in this country than the rest of us is just disingenuous.
13 posted on 07/16/2008 12:13:53 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: RightWhale

Yet there is McCain speaking at the NAACP. At least Watts’ comments show that previous efforts were made so the yearly “this is the first time the GOP has reached out yada yada” is simply BS as usual.


14 posted on 07/16/2008 12:14:58 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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There is nothing novel in this article. Blacks vote democrat because of democrat socialism that they think will benefit them and because the democrats are the party of “hate whitey” because of exaggerated claims of current racism and past history.

In short, many blacks hate whites AND want free government handouts of every sort, and that is exactly what the democrats have to offer.

Of course, if the blacks were informed, they would know that those positions are losers for them in the long run and keeps them down economically, etc.

15 posted on 07/16/2008 12:16:47 PM PDT by HwyChile
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BTTT


16 posted on 07/16/2008 12:18:16 PM PDT by ROTB (Our Constitution [is] for a [Christian] people. It is wholly inadequate [for] any other. -John Adams)
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“...GOP has reached out yada yada” is simply BS as usual”.

But the left and the liberal black leaders will say that is not reaching out to blacks because he did not offer the same government handouts and thus he is not really speaking to black issues, etc.

17 posted on 07/16/2008 12:18:37 PM PDT by HwyChile
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All this notwithstanding, I advocate the nomination by the Republican Party of a black conservative VP this year.

Assuming that Obama is in fact nominated for POTUS by the DNC next month, that move will have no effect on the 95%+ lock the Democrats will have on the black vote this year. And it is a given that whatever black conservative you name would not have the credentials to have contended for the Republican presidential election with the likes of Mitt Romney.

But I stand by the value of my suggestion.
First because there is in the Constitution an explicit incentive to choose the VP based on the tendency of his identity to help unify the country:

The Electors shall meet in their respective States and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same State with themselves Twelfth Amendment
And second, because no Republican other than a black will be able to challenge the taboo on criticizing a black Democratic presidential nominee. Even the very paucity of credentials for the black conservative VP nominee would work to the advantage of the Republican ticket, when he points out that Obama's credentials are no better than his - and Obama is contending not for the nominally meaningless VP slot but for the presidency itself.

Obama would be unable to avoid engaging the opposing VP nominee - and that is disastrous for any presidential contender. IMHO nominating a black conservative VP candidate would assure the election of the Republican ticket.


18 posted on 07/16/2008 12:19:41 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; Admin Moderator

You have this as by Bruce Bartlett, but it is in fact by the incomparable LaShawn Barber herself.


19 posted on 07/16/2008 12:22:53 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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“I advocate the nomination by the Republican Party of a black conservative VP this year.”

In general, I like the idea. But the left would say McCain is doing it just to try to get black votes and the left would go after the black VP with everything it has (he better not have any skeletons in his closet). It would be a risky move. It would be risky and may not work.

I actually think a woman VP may be a better choice to try to get more of the woman vote that may go democrat. I am not even sold on this idea, but I would choose it over your idea because (1) blacks vote democrat no matter what and (2) women do not and there are a lot we could pick up.


20 posted on 07/16/2008 12:31:44 PM PDT by HwyChile
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