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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I wasn’t directing that at you specifically. This thread actually hasn’t gotten too bad yet, but if you read some others, people are willing to blame everybody but themselves for the situation they’re in. Many people also refuse to accept that times have changed and they’re going to have to adjust. They’d rather drill up the entire country for oil just so that they can be left in an even more painful situation years down the road. That’s what I mean when I refer to a sense of entitlement.

I’m glad to hear you’re living the life you want. If you planned for it and determined you can afford it, then you’ll be fine. Nobody is going to make you move. If you’re forced to move because can’t afford it, and think you “deserve” it just because you’ve worked hard, that’s a sense of entitlement. I work hard at my job, and I’d love to live in one those mansions over on Summit Avenue, but I don’t have the money for it. That’s how it goes sometimes.


21 posted on 07/16/2008 6:15:26 AM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
They’d rather drill up the entire country for oil just so that they can be left in an even more painful situation years down the road.

Drill up the ENTIRE country? Get a grip...

You really want all those that live in the suburbs or rural areas to move into the city? Guess what's gonna happen to city taxes and housing costs for those that already live there (you)?

28 posted on 07/16/2008 6:22:32 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian

You make a good point. I’m all for drilling up the country. I think it’s too soon for $4 gasoline, and more importantly I think it’s bad that money is going to foreigners, instead of staying in our own country.

But over time, we need to change our uses of oil so we can keep total demand down to sustainable levels. The high prices are accelerating that push, which is a good thing. My hope is we can start drilling, get gasoline down below $3 a gallon, get oil back to where plane flight is reasonable again, and people can heat their homes.

But not so cheap that we forget that we need to move on to better things, to electric or other power for cars, to nuclear power and clean coal for electricity, to better solar panel technology, to better energy-saving technology.

And yes, to the average person changing their lifestyle so they are less burdensome to the planet (not because they care about the planet, but because “less burdensome” saves money).

If we all had to pay the TRUE costs to the planet for our actions, we’d have become less burdensome years ago. Instead, like how people drove up their credit card debt, and many then simply defaulted, we are driving up our planetary debt, and I guess we think we can default later — except you can’t default on the planet.

Some day people will realise that a 15-lane highway isn’t the best use of the land we have available to us.


32 posted on 07/16/2008 6:26:03 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
when I see the lazy rich mother driving her precious little Johnny two blocks to school each morning, IN HER HUMMER...I get a bit perturbed......I see tons of large pickups or suvs with ONE person inside.....

I don't think people have got the message yet...that or they are just too rich or too stupid to care.....

I want us to drill.....we need our own supply....not only for the oil, but the jobs that we'll have.....good paying jobs....

but I also think we need to reduce our energy use overall....if nothing more than to just save us some money......

I just don't like to see waste and we are wasting a lot....

212 posted on 07/17/2008 9:30:31 PM PDT by cherry
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