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In the Berkshires, Americans Do These Jobs
NumbersUSA.com ^ | July 15, 2008 | Roy Beck,

Posted on 07/15/2008 7:46:28 PM PDT by Delacon

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"We have two more weeks to force a vote on the SAVE Act.

We are 28 signatures short on the Discharge Petition.

Please see our list of Members of the House. The names in red are the ones refusing to sign the petition to force a vote to finally begin the four-year phase in of all employers using E-Verify. This would take away the job magnet for illegal foreign workers and once again open up whole occupations in some parts of the country to the American workers of all ethnicities who have been shut out.

Please find the red names in your state and call their offices today, asking them to sign the Discharge Petition while there is still time."

What he said.

 


1 posted on 07/15/2008 7:46:28 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: Delacon

Same is true of New Hampshire and Maine.

25 Years ago, native born whites did these jobs in Eastern Massachusetts as well. It was always something of a culture shock to go to Virgina and never, ever, see a white face working at a MacDonalds or car wash.

Now it’s mostly foreign born whites doing these jobs in Eastern Massachusetts, with more Hispanics as you approach Boston.


2 posted on 07/15/2008 7:51:36 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Hillary to Obama: Arkancide happens.)
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To: Delacon

I see the two Red/Green Congressmen from the “free state” of New Hampshire haven’t signed yet...maybe the wave of home invasions sweeping Manchester will change their minds. Or not.


3 posted on 07/15/2008 7:52:29 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Delacon

bump for the morning


4 posted on 07/15/2008 7:52:47 PM PDT by dfwddr ( Duncan Hunter .)
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To: dfwddr

Of course Americans will do those jobs. What the service industry is really afraid of is that real Americans probably won’t do those jobs for the starvation wages they want to pay, along with the fact they’d actually have to pay SSI/Medicare/Worker’s Comp on their workers, too. Those businesses protesting should all have to prove the legality of their workers.


5 posted on 07/15/2008 8:11:08 PM PDT by mavfin (Personal freedom, personal responsibility)
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To: Delacon

Come with me tomorrow night to the camp where I do a dance every week in the summer. This is on “Golden Pond” (Squam Lake) in New Hampshire. They have over 100 Russian kids working at this place because they have been unable to get American kids to do anything but be in the Recreation department. When it comes to kitchen help, maintenance, housekeeping, it’s almost all done by foreigners. They are top quality people. They speak English very well and I find them to be hard working and industrius.
When I first started there in 1991, there weren’t any foreign kids working there.


6 posted on 07/15/2008 8:17:03 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: Delacon

Wow, even my good for nothing dem congressman signed! What’s up with Ron Paul not signing yet?


7 posted on 07/15/2008 8:37:30 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (It's the Vast Wright Wing Conspiracy - labeling all whites as racist.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
I believe this is referring to illegal immigrants, not all immigrants. My husband has experience with some Romanian workers and was very pleased with their job performance.
8 posted on 07/15/2008 8:39:43 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (It's the Vast Wright Wing Conspiracy - labeling all whites as racist.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

And I just came back from a vacation on the beaches of Delaware. Everywhere I turned the youngsters servering my food, and cleaning my hotel room spoke some slavic language. Considering what it takes to come here illegally from Romania, Russia, or wherever, I’d be willing to bet that most of them are here LEGALLY. Paying taxes, observing and being protected by the laws. Now if you want to have a debate on the amount of legal immigrants the US lets in that compete with native born youths and others, well then you have a point about the amount of people we should allow in legally who will always drive down wages. Its worth debating. But my issue right now is with the illegals. Certainly that should be solved first.


9 posted on 07/15/2008 8:51:03 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: Delacon

Joe Wilson, my guy in Congress, has signed. But, Clyburn and Spratt, also from SC have not. But I guess that’s to be expected... they’re RATs.


10 posted on 07/15/2008 9:14:41 PM PDT by upchuck (As we doggedly march towards dystopia, my poor country is losing it's mind. God help us!)
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To: Delacon
Maybe because said regions are ECONOMICALLY DEPRESSED other than the summer people coming in. Last I checked, the Berkshires remained an economic backwater, despite the summer tourists.

Context people! Context! A line cook in New York city makes considerably more than one in Buffalo or Morgantown. Yet the former are almost entirely immigrants. Why not the "young white American boys" simply move to NYC, where they can earn more money, if this were as simple as this gentleman is stating.

11 posted on 07/15/2008 9:14:47 PM PDT by Clemenza (We are a REPUBLIC, not a "Will of the People" Mobocracy)
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“Why not the “young white American boys” simply move to NYC, where they can earn more money, if this were as simple as this gentleman is stating.”

It really is simple. If the laws were enforced in NYC so that no illegal immigrant could get a job, then you’d see nothing but youths who are native born or here legally doing those jobs that many claim they wont do. I don’t give a damn if they are “young white american boys”. In fact, if the laws were enforced “young black american boys” would stand to benefit most.


12 posted on 07/15/2008 9:20:30 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: Delacon; Lonesome in Massachussets

Whenever I read articles like this I am reminded how 25 years or so ago you had to be in the “in” crowd to work at the local Mcdonalds where I lived.


13 posted on 07/15/2008 10:06:31 PM PDT by BBell
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Mass. reps all in RED on that list (on website) as non-signers. What a surprise, that a state run by Mass-holes would be lining up with Teddy Kennedy to continue to subvert our borders, our laws, and our security.


14 posted on 07/15/2008 10:39:52 PM PDT by Enchante (BILL AYERS: "Now THESE are the Obamas I knew! Thank you, New Yorker, for showing my real friends!")
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To: Delacon
I went to college in the Berkshires, well, some decades ago.

In the fall, apple orchards were ripe for harvest, and it was the college students, even from some of the elite schools there, who did the harvesting.

I can tell you that putting unfiltered apple juice in the back of ones closet, for a few days, will turn into some potent hooch.

15 posted on 07/15/2008 10:53:58 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: Delacon; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; Past Your Eyes
I can tell you from working for one of the concessionaires holding the contract at one of the National Parks that many of these foreign workers are here on special visas from the State Department, and that the State Department also subsidizes their wages.

I know this for a fact.

The Russians had a different reputation here: some of the young women were notorious for making additional wages on the side (wink, wink).

16 posted on 07/15/2008 11:01:07 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: Delacon

The only reasons there aren’t immigrant/migrant kids doing those jobs in Mass Maine and New Hampshire is due to the opening of the EU trade zone, anti-US sentiment in Europe, the collapse of the dollar, and the new work visa rules that require in person interviews at American embassies/consulates.

The companies that used to ship over European and South American kids for work holidays to New England are almost all gone at this point.

$1.60 to 1 Euro
plus the US now has a worse tax rate disadvantage compared to the European countries who adopted the flat tax
= no more gap year Europeans coming to the US to work.


17 posted on 07/16/2008 12:10:09 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Delacon

Those working in restaurants etc. are not “white” people. They are the children of working class Italian, Polish, French Canadian, Irish and Slovaks, all of whom suffered prejudice for years because they were being considered “not real Americans” by bigots like you.

When I worked in the Berkshires, Jews weren’t allowed in the local country clubs, and my parter in medical practice was the token Irish Catholic allowed membership in his country club.

Are you implying my Hispanic and Asian Grandkids are not real Americans... Even though my Asian husband is a WWII vet and my son in law is a veteran of Iraq?


18 posted on 07/16/2008 12:17:57 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: mavfin

Americans probably won’t do those jobs for the starvation wages they want to pay
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It isn’t just the service jobs that offer low wages! Within the past week I was perusing a list of job openings in my area and was amazed how low some of the opening rates were.
One that really caught my eye listed the following requirements,”must have a knowledge of electrical, plumbing, carpentry and painting, HVAC certification a plus but not required, must have driver’s license, own vehicle and have no criminal record. The starting pay was listed as ...$9.00 per hour. This paragon of maintenance is expected to work an hour for less than one pound of T-bone steak! Or you could say just over two gallons of gasoline per hour. Back when I was a swabby the MINIMUM wage was $1.25 an hour and that would buy four gallons of gasoline in this area and probably two pounds of T-bone. I hope this job remains unfilled at this rate of pay.


19 posted on 07/16/2008 5:18:34 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; Delacon

I have no doubt that they are all here legally. My point was to the fact that they are here because American young folks CAN NOT BE FOUND who will do the kind of work they are doing. Some say that if these places paid a living wage, they would have plenty of help. For crying out loud, these are pretty much temporary summertime jobs that every college kid and many high school kids used to be happy to get not so many years ago. What are those kids doing now? That’s what I’d like to know. Are they so rich they don’t need to lower themselves to this kind of work? Have they jumped right over entry level to middle management? Or maybe in the past 35 years, we aborted all of our people who might be doing that work?
There’s going to come a day of reckoning in the not-too-distant future and it ain’t gonna be pretty. Some people are going to get a wake up call that they will not be able to answer.


20 posted on 07/16/2008 5:47:37 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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