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To: Oldpuppymax; CGTRWK; Little Ray; wastedyears
You've got it dead wrong... it is about racism, liberal racism. And because racism is the moral third rail for liberals, few of them will have the courage to defend any policy that's associated with it.

It's a well established historical fact that the first gun control laws were specifically racist in their intent because they only applied to freed slaves. And now the areas that have the tightest gun control are those areas where you have a sizable minority population ruled over by an elite (predominantly white) political class. We look at that result and say that it's caused by the ruling class not trusting the peasants because conservatives don't really notice any issue of race. but liberals dont' think like us. To the liberals running the big cities, identity politics is everything. Your race is central to who you are. And they look at their constituency and see a bunch of dangerous "others" that they're ruling over.

If a wealthy white man wanted to get a gun permit in New York city he can just pay the right people, make the right political contribution and presto... a gun permit. That's how Rosie O'Donnell got hers. Liberals didn't set up the law to keep them from having a gun because wealthy and white is enough like them to make them comfortable. But even if a black man had a real need for self defense he's not getting a permit... no way no how.

Up to now we've always seen gun control as an assault on everyone not in the ruling class, but that isn't how the ruling class has seen it. and we've been giving them a pass on it becasue we feel threatened too.

If we can simply make it clear that only a racist can continue to support gun control, their inner city support will fall away.

You think about gun control as an assault on you and your rights... but the truth is, for liberals it's never been about banning "our guns" it's always been about banning "their guns". But at the core of their "us and them" idea is race.

It may seem like I'm stating the obvious at first, but you see gun control as a very different thing than a liberal does. Not that their way is rational at all, but you need to try to understand it if you're going to counter it effectively.

Gun control started out as a race issue, and it's still a race issue today. Not because we see it that way, but because they mean it that way.

47 posted on 07/16/2008 5:12:56 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE - http://freenj.blogspot.com - RadioFree NJ)
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To: tcostell; Oldpuppymax
"... If a wealthy white man wanted to get a gun permit in New York city he can just pay the right people, make the right political contribution and presto... a gun permit. That's how Rosie O'Donnell got hers. Liberals didn't set up the law to keep them from having a gun because wealthy and white is enough like them to make them comfortable."

That's exactly the point I was going to make about NYC handgun licensing laws if the thread went any further.

There was a list of CCW holders in NYC published some months ago. Every holder was wealthy and white: Donald Trump, Robert DeNiro, Rosie O'Donnell, etc.

Anyone who thinks that gun control activists aren't primarily concerned about nearby lower class minorities being in possession of firearms simply hasn't been paying attention. They just mask their racism by calling for ALL guns to be banned and trying to turn the tables of racism by saying that all they want to do is keep minorities from being the victims of gun violence.

The truth is that they feel a need to ban guns because the fact remains that in our major American metro areas, no matter how wealthy you become you'll still always be within smelling distance of the poor.

48 posted on 07/16/2008 1:23:40 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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