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McCain criticizes U.S. war effort in Afghanistan (It's Surge Time!)
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 7/15/08 | Steve Holland

Posted on 07/15/2008 10:33:07 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

ALBUQUERQUE, New Mexico (Reuters) - Republican presidential hopeful John McCain sharply criticized the flagging U.S. war effort in Afghanistan on Tuesday and vowed to turn it around if elected, starting with sending more U.S. troops.

"That's no way to run a war," said McCain, complaining that security in Afghanistan has deteriorated and the status quo is not acceptable.

McCain waded into the debate over what to do in Afghanistan, a war begun after the September 11 attacks that Democrats charge has been neglected by the Bush administration as it concentrates on Iraq.

An attack on a U.S. base near the Pakistan border by a resurgent Taliban on Sunday killed nine U.S. soldiers and wounded 15, the biggest single American loss in Afghanistan since 2005.

McCain, an Arizona senator who calls himself an underdog in his November 4 election battle against Democrat Barack Obama, said an improving security situation in Iraq as a result of a U.S. troop increase, or "surge," should allow the United States to send more forces to Afghanistan.

U.S. commanders in Afghanistan say they need at least three additional brigades of about 3,500 troops each, and McCain said they should get them. There are currently 36,000 American troops stationed in Afghanistan.

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McCain, a strong supporter of the war in Iraq after earlier criticizing the Bush administration's handling of it, said the United States lacks a comprehensive campaign plan for Afghanistan "because we have violated one of the cardinal rules of any military operation: unity of command."

"Today there are no less than three different American military combatant commands operating in Afghanistan, as well as NATO, some of whose members have national restrictions on where their troops can go and what they can do. That's no way to run a war," he said.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; afghanistan; criticizes; gwot; mccain; oef; troopstrength; wot

1 posted on 07/15/2008 10:33:08 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Republican presidential candidate Senator John McCain (R-AZ)
speaks at the National Council of La Raza convention at San Diego's
Convention Center July 14, 2008. REUTERS/Fred Greaves


2 posted on 07/15/2008 10:34:10 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

What does a La Raza speech have to do with Afghanistan?


3 posted on 07/15/2008 10:41:04 AM PDT by misterrob (Obama-Does America Need Another Jimmy Carter?)
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To: NormsRevenge

McCain, STFU. You have no clue what it going on in Afghanistan, apparently.


4 posted on 07/15/2008 10:44:30 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: NormsRevenge
McCain also vowed he would get Bin Laden! He implying strongly that GW is not doing what is necessary to get this done. I wish someone would ask him just exactly how he intends to fulfill this promise without "invading" Pakistan! It is suspected strongly that Bin Laden is holed up in the mountainous regions of the Pak/Afgan border and Pakistan has strongly declared that any incursion of Pakistan by U.S./coalition troops would be an act of war against them.

So, again, Juan, how do you intend to capture Bin Laden in Pakistan without violating international borders and starting a war with our tenuous ally?

5 posted on 07/15/2008 10:44:34 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: misterrob

I think a surge started occurring some time ago and is continuing.


6 posted on 07/15/2008 10:44:39 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: NormsRevenge

He needs 10,000 for Afghanistan. Twice that number are ready to be transferred from Iraq to someplace. No need to wait until next January.


7 posted on 07/15/2008 10:47:54 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: TexasRedeye
McCain has no clue re foreign affair. Remember him fumbling over the al Qaeda during his Middle East travels? He became confused as to who is Putin. Now he fumbled on “Chekoslovakia.” He is unable to send emails and said he “watches” Drudge Report. Something terribly wrong with his mind.
8 posted on 07/15/2008 10:55:14 AM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Bahamas!)
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To: NormsRevenge

I want to get some input from fellow/current military who are familiar with Afghanistan, because I have a few questions. Anybody feel free to jump in and answer.

1. The situation in Afghanistan seems quite different than in Iraq. In Iraq we increased the level of troops to help reduce the violence, smoke out Al Qaeda, and restore order to the country. That has obviously worked. As I’ve stated a few times recently, there have been more murders in Chicago in 2008 than in Iraq. In Afghanistan, I don’t know that the mission has been to restore order. I’ve seen it as more of an attempt to provide enough troops on the ground to effectively engage small pockets of enemies, establish relationships with the local tribal leaders, and to re-establish our HUMINT, which had been completely destroyed prior to 9-11. Would an increased amount of troops help accomplish that goal (if it’s what I stated it is)?

2. Is the military willing to massively engage AQ in the mountains, or are they leaving the most risky activities to the locals? In other words are they locals better prepared to engage the enemy within the mountains and border areas with Pakistan?

3. Is the reason we have not deployed more of a force there because of the lessons learned by the Soviets? Obama argues that we haven’t had enough troops there because of Iraq. However, military plans were executed in Afghanistan long before Iraq was in play. We had enough troops to send then, but didn’t. I guess my take on it is like the analogy using the entire USAF over in Afghanistan. You can only bomb so much. Everything else will have to be located by surveillance, HUMINT, and Forward Air Controllers on the ground. Can that be effectively executed with more troops, or is a limited presence there the key...in other words, letting the snoops do the job. Blend in, gather intelligence, and go from there.

Thanks to all who respond.


9 posted on 07/15/2008 11:23:51 AM PDT by GOPyouth ("Change that works for Him!")
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To: misterrob

What does a La Raza speech have to do with Afghanistan?

It was the pic shown with the article at that time.

It has since changed.


10 posted on 07/15/2008 11:26:11 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: pissant

You apparently have no problem with the source of the McCain quote nor the context from which Rueters may have taken it?


11 posted on 07/15/2008 11:28:50 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky

I have a very deep understanding of John McCain from much research on the man. Do you?


12 posted on 07/15/2008 11:31:30 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Your "deep" understanding notwithstanding, you may want to view what Senator McCain actually said, and the context in which he said it, and not merely be guided by Rueters. Review the thread "McCain hits Obama on Iraq" for a more accurate quote.

The "no way to run a war" comment was made in regard to NATO having a chain of command independent of US forces.

13 posted on 07/15/2008 11:38:23 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: GOPyouth
s I’ve stated a few times recently, there have been more murders in Chicago in 2008 than in Iraq.

I need to clarify that statement. I meant to say more murders than military deaths in Iraq in 2008.

14 posted on 07/15/2008 11:44:55 AM PDT by GOPyouth ("Change that works for Him!")
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To: Mr. Lucky

‘No way to run a war’ that has been stacking up taliban like cordwood?


15 posted on 07/15/2008 11:52:48 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Mr. Lucky

McCain has been to the war zones several times, unlike
Obama and the third party candidates.

McCain’s 19yr old son is based here in San Diego in the Marines and has served a tour in Iraq and will be heading
back to Iraq or Afag.
Another son will be a grad at the Naval Academy in months.

McCain has more of a clue than most what is going on in the Middle east.


16 posted on 07/15/2008 11:57:12 AM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: NormsRevenge
Generalissimo McCain is a day late and a peso short.

Bush has already begun the "surge" into Afghanistan

But hey, what's another backstabbing on Bush by McCain?

17 posted on 07/15/2008 12:06:10 PM PDT by TADSLOS (48 Days and a Wakeup for the GOP to use the Nuclear Option.)
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