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To: CindyDawg
I figured you'd meant the antenna pole. I grew up in the city so we didn't need a huge antenna (unless we wanted to pick up the Browns home games from Toledo). We had the rabbit ears on top of the set, and I still use a set for my FM reception. Nothing elaborate - just the simple ones without the dials, knobs, and all that.

I can picture your Dad watching Bonanza while you and your sister hold the antenna. "A little to the left, CindyDawg - Hoss is a little blurry". The foil likely didn't help any.

38 posted on 07/14/2008 7:31:46 PM PDT by meyer (Government is the problem, not the solution.)
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To: meyer
So my gasoline powered SUV is going to magically run on wind power now! sweete /s off.

seriously using wind power to split water into hydrogen would be cool but even at the cheapest one could buy bulk wind power at 5 cents a kwh it takes 65 kwhs to make and compress a kg or h2 gas. So 5 times 65 is $3.25 just in electricity to make the h2 and compress it. transportation, marketing, retail mark up, you get the picture. The only hydrogen that makes economic sence is nuclear hydrogen buss bar rates for nuclear power can be as cheap as 1.5 cents a kwh off peak. Thats only 97 cents in electricty to get a kg of hydrogen. On a side note one Kg of H2 is equal on a BTU to BTU basis for gasoline.

http://www.evnut.com/docs/acp_fc_pollution.pdf page 5 for the KWh per Kg ref. This PDF makes a strong point for plug in hybrids though. even at retail rates of .13c a kwh a plug in with 10 kwh of bat storage which gives a 40 mile range would eliminate 50+% of all gasoline miles driven in this country. look up the NHTSB figures for average daily commutes full on 50% are less than 40 miles per day. Think about a buck thirty for your daily commute instead of $8 =( 40 miles / 19.5 MPG in my SUV * $3.90 per gallon E10 here in the Big D.) the plug in is 8 times cheaper per mile than my gasoline suv i know i know im not counting depreciation of the 10 kwh bat pack. Well Altair Nanotechnologies has large format lithium packs that can go 15000 100% DOD cycles and still hold 80% of there capacity. 15000 times 40 miles is 600000 miles so these lithium packs would be lifetime packs for a plug in EV. Phoenix motors is using them for there SUV electric vehicle they are going to put a bumper to bumper 15year-150k warrantee.

39 posted on 07/17/2008 9:30:44 PM PDT by JDinAustin (Austinite in the Big D)
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