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To: Free ThinkerNY
It isn't to say that there is a direct correlation, but what is absolutely true is that there has been a shift in Islam that I believe is connected to the failures of governments and the failures of the West to work with many of these countries, in order to make sure that opportunities are there, that there's bottom-up economic growth.

Oh, not enough money.

He's telling us that he will agree to extortion.

2 posted on 07/13/2008 7:51:41 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: raybbr; expatguy
You beat me to it. That's the quote that struck me the same way.

PINGING Expatguy!!!!

7 posted on 07/13/2008 7:58:38 PM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: raybbr

If BHO had been the President during the Barbary Pirate era, he would have apologized to the Sultans and drained the Treasury dry to pay tributes and ransoms to them.


9 posted on 07/13/2008 8:03:06 PM PDT by princeofdarkness (Barack Hussein Obama- The Only Candidate Who Makes John Kerry Look Steadfast and Principled.)
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To: raybbr

“It isn’t to say that there is a direct correlation, but what is absolutely true is that there has been a shift in Islam that I believe is connected to the failures of governments and the failures of the West to work with many of these countries, in order to make sure that opportunities are there, that there’s bottom-up economic growth.”

Isn’t this more or less the same thing that Bush has been saying, that we have to bring democracy and economic hope to the Middle East so that radical Islam will loose its grip? Sounds like, once again, he’s trying to co-opt a Republican idea.


28 posted on 07/13/2008 8:41:30 PM PDT by vanishing liberty
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To: raybbr
He's asked about "your first memory of a foreign policy event that shaped you..." and he has no answer to the question = instead deflects again, intimating that moving to Jakarta as a young boy can be counted for foreign policy experience.

And once again, his English is faulty: "was my mother coming to me and saying, "I've remarried this man from Indonesia..."

It should be either "I've married again..." or "She told me she had remarried..." - but she didn't, I presume, remarry the Indonesian man.

But then, what do I know. I didn't graduate from Harvard.

31 posted on 07/13/2008 8:48:53 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: raybbr
It isn't to say that there is a direct correlation, but what is absolutely true is that there has been a shift in Islam that I believe is connected to the failures of governments and the failures of the West to work with many of these countries, in order to make sure that opportunities are there, that there's bottom-up economic growth.

Oh those poor Saudi's. They're so pooor - maybe we should set up a Marshall Plan to rescue the Arabian peninsula countries from their grinding poverty - give them opportunities for economic growth.

What was that? The greatest transfer of wealth in history, to the oil-rich countries? Yes, yes that's what we need. How come no one thought of that?

36 posted on 07/13/2008 8:57:49 PM PDT by BusterBear
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To: raybbr
" ... but what is absolutely true is that there has been a shift in Islam that I believe is connected to the failures of governments and the failures of the West to work with many of these countries, in order to make sure that opportunities are there, that there's bottom-up economic growth."

Why do Democrats continue to believe militant Islam is driven by economic situations when Mohammad Atta and many of the other September 11th hijackers were middle-class college-educated Arabs.

Second, why is it the West's responsibility to "make sure that opportunities are" available in the Islamic world. It is an asinine statement.

43 posted on 07/13/2008 9:06:20 PM PDT by magellan
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To: raybbr
He's telling us that he will agree to extortion.

He's told us that successfully dealing with Iran comes down to offering them a big enough incentive package. Words like "bribe", "extortion", and "appeasement" should never be used to describe policies of His Obamic Holiness. That's racist.

55 posted on 07/14/2008 3:03:35 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Tom Manion '08-My only reason for voting this year)
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To: raybbr

Translation: “If we give them enough money, they won’t kill us”


80 posted on 07/15/2008 6:16:05 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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