[HawaiianGecko]

It's simple Arnold.  If Americans conserve all we do is allow more and cheaper oil for the rest of the world to gobble up, strengthening their economies while still emitting these supposed green house gases in the same amount.  Only difference is that we become a third world society.  Why would I even consider pushing my thermostat to 80?  So I can sweat on my dining room table while the energy I save is bought up and used by others that don't care about price?
Shove it Arnold.

[goldstategop]

Exactly. Other countries are going to do that and we have to live like in the Third World so they can get ahead at our expense? If the politicians were honest in saying GW was a massive wealth transfer scheme, which it really is, it would never have a chance.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus