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To: Amelia
You give social theories but no proven results. Ruby Payne, who denies the importance of genetics, stresses the importance of social class. You can find her work summarized on FR: HERE.

A good place to start on the IQ controversy is: HERE.

Murray, like most academic psychologists, does not believe that there is much evidence that government educational interventions beyond some reasonably adequate level can permanently boost IQ test scores. Murray’s preferred policy is to forget group averages and encourage private and public institutions to treat people as individuals.

A summary of 200 academic psychologists on the Bell Curve included the accepted premises regarding IQ. You can find that: HERE.

An almost inescapable conclusion is that the Departments of Education, Political Science, and Modern Languages are the only remaining people who discount IQ and its distribution as crucial in understanding of this issue.

14 posted on 07/13/2008 7:54:02 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
You give social theories but no proven results.

I asked your opinion of the theories, and said the policy implications depended upon one's opinion of the theories.

I take it that you believe IQ is immutable and that The Bell Curve is your major influence in this matter?

15 posted on 07/13/2008 8:16:37 AM PDT by Amelia
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