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To: Swordmaker
We here in the fever swamps (see the "fr" in "fever", evidently that's blog speak for FR) have no right to know anything, I guess. Besides ... AJStrata again hath spake.

Actually he makes a good point in today's posting and has somewhat toned down his own loony use of ad hominems that obscure any logical argument he might have. Toned down, that is. He still suffers from whatever bug of the psyche drives him to be that way -- belittling and derogatory to anyone not sharing his opinion. In Dog-Whisperer talk he's dominant-aggressive passing into the red zone at times.

The point is that after 2001 -- where every terrorist (so it seemed) had a fake state driver's license and one state functionary of a license issuer got very horribly burnt to death in an arson job of her car -- the states actually DID start cleaning up their IDs. My current driver license is full of all sorts of special gimmicks to prevent fake ids, as are NJ's new ones. Pre 9/11 Jersey did have some of the easiest to fake licenses. So easy, entrepreneurs did set up in vans outside of college and beach town bars to make fake licenses on the spot.

Yes, it is possible Hawaii did change the paper, and it maybe possible they did not change the laser printed document label. AJStrata was good for GUESSING that might be the case. But, a guess is just a guess. Would hope someone could tie that down as an actuality.

Still ... what AJ doesn't address is more important than his guesses, even if they happen to be right. Obama has done a modified limited hangout and is stonewalling this basic issue. It is something every citizen should want clear proof for -- both for Obama and for McCain.

Obama's autobiography says he himself has seen a paper copy of his own birth certificate. And that wasn't the one presented either, for he wrote of finding it when he was young. Where is that certificate?

And NOTHING stops Obama for authorizing Hawaii to release records of his birth, all or enough of them to prove the legend of his birth.

Where even is the cert number on the image already released? It was blacked out, that alone INVALIDATES the document.

Also ... AJStrata's mind burst about 9/11 document improvements may explain Google's erasing of the images of those documents. Just speculating and talking it out. Hey all you observers of this fever swamp, that's what WE swamp inhabitants do, we speculate, investigate, discuss and talk things out. "All Things Considered" -- that's FR.

We understand how that is very scary to you more elegant and proper people, because it can get, well, *swampy*. That's the way the real world is at times.

So my speculation about why Google erased the images is: Because Homeland Security or maybe Hawaii asked them to. Otherwise the images could be used by forgers. To me that is a very silly reason, but I am just speculating.

78 posted on 07/12/2008 1:10:00 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
The point is that after 2001 -- where every terrorist (so it seemed) had a fake state driver's license and one state functionary of a license issuer got very horribly burnt to death in an arson job of her car --

Katherine Smith ping

Five Men with Mideast Ties Indicted in License Scam (Tennessee License Scandal)

TENN DRIVER LICENSE SCANDAL: FLAMING DEATH NO ACCIDENT, FBI SAYS

Car fire set off suspicions as crew fought it (Smith Tennesee License Scandal)

License suspect had WTC repair pass, but Port Authority did its own work [Tennessee License Scandal]

The pass gave him access to the buildings' sprinkler systems.

I bet he "fixed" them real good...

Treason is not too strong a word.

90 posted on 07/12/2008 1:59:57 PM PDT by null and void (Do/'08)
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