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Sun's Not Screwy, Scientist Says
SPACE.com ^ | Jul 11, 2008 | Unknown

Posted on 07/11/2008 11:13:33 AM PDT by decimon

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To: Rick.Donaldson
>>>how would one put in back “in whack” anyway?<<<

Silly question....buy carbon credits from Al Gore's company!

From earlier World Net Daily article...

Generation Investment Management's U.S. branch is headed by a former Gore staffer and fund-raiser, Peter S. Knight, who once was the target of probes by the Federal Election Commission and the Department of Justice.

Hobbs points out Gore stands to make a lot of money from his promotion of the alleged "global warming" threat, which is disputed by many mainstream scientists.

"In other words, he [Gore] 'buys' his 'carbon offsets' from himself, through a transaction designed to boost his own investments and return a profit to himself," Hobbs writes. "To be blunt, Gore doesn't buy 'carbon offsets' through Generation Investment Management – he buys stocks."

41 posted on 07/11/2008 1:21:37 PM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out O)
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To: Bulwinkle

IIRC, this is the same Hathaway who predicted with confidence that Cycle 24 would begin in January, 2008. He then changed that to April, 2008. I may have seen another correction from him citing May, 2008, but by then I was prone to only skimming headlines if his name was mentioned.


42 posted on 07/11/2008 1:29:30 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Capitalism is what happens when governments get out of the way.)
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To: Bulwinkle

So the pole reversal happens at the solar maximum.

I wonder why the earth is so magnetically active now.

I know what you mean, I love this stuff too, but I can’t pretend to understand any of the details.


43 posted on 07/11/2008 1:30:45 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: PreciousLiberty

“I also remain concerned that modern sunspot numbers are inflated compared to historical numbers due to better observing instruments.”

I’m just a lameman...but i also vist the forum at solarcycle24.com

There are ‘rules’ whether or not s sunspeck counts as a sunspot.

There’s one of the posters there expalining it:

“Ok, I just finished talking with Leif on this, he said the size spots that receive a number must be able to be seen by the same power telescope Rudolph Wolf used 150 years ago when he started his system of counting. The more modern telescopes have certain rules they have to go by in making the observation. So [sunspeck]990 does conform to the rules and is legit.”

...Leif mentioned above solar physicist is Leif Svalgaard,


44 posted on 07/11/2008 1:32:08 PM PDT by Bulwinkle
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To: Rick.Donaldson
"If, for the sake of argument, it were “out of whack” how would one put in back “in whack” anyway?"

Call the sun-busters on the Icarus 2. They know just how to put everything back in whack.


45 posted on 07/11/2008 1:37:16 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

46 posted on 07/11/2008 2:55:10 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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Thanks fanfan.
 
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47 posted on 07/11/2008 3:12:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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Gods
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Thanks fanfan.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.
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48 posted on 07/11/2008 3:13:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: decimon

Ok, what does this have to do with “gods, graves, or glyphs”?


49 posted on 07/11/2008 4:27:35 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: DesScorp
Ok, what does this have to do with “gods, graves, or glyphs”?

Beats me. I didn't see the horror in it to justify a GGG ping. ;-)

50 posted on 07/11/2008 4:37:12 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Well, this is one of those “duh” articles where a scientist bucks the popular convention and calls it like it is. The sun’s current activity levels are within the norms that we have observed, postulated, and inferred from both archeological and historical records.

Of course, he’s going to find himself being scolded by his “handlers” for publishing a finding that runs contrary to what the grant underwriters want to hear.


51 posted on 07/11/2008 4:42:33 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Redcloak
Hee-hee-hee! Fooled you!

I poured a few packets of raspberry Jell-O into your font while you were too busy typing to notice.

Hope that was just regular water, and not holy water in the font; I'd hate to have to extra penance for blasphemy.

52 posted on 07/11/2008 5:03:10 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: PreciousLiberty
Perhaps this was more critical than he thought.

So, unexpected behavior followed by unexpected behavior.

If you understood math & science, you would know that what you said is absurd, and Mr. Nasa is correct in stating nothing is wrong.

You have two negatives, "unexpected behavior" and "second unexpected behavior"; and two negatives make a positive: hence, the double unexpected is expected, so is therefore expected and normal.

P.S. You can now use PayPal to send funds to my Nigerian account to cover tuition for an advanced course in the mysteries of science & technology so that you too can explain these things to the unitiated.

Just keep sending tuition money to WeScamU@Lagos.edu. Don't worry about amounts; when enough has been received, we'll let you know, and mail you a beautiful embossed faux (a very rare breed of African sheep) sheepskin diploma!

53 posted on 07/11/2008 5:23:14 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: steelyourfaith

All your base are belong to us!


54 posted on 07/11/2008 7:10:56 PM PDT by DrNo
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To: coconutt2000

“The sun’s current activity levels are within the norms that we have observed, postulated, and inferred from both archeological and historical records.”

And remember, that includes about 5 continental glaciations - as determined from ice cores going back hundreds of thousands of years. (Although, that is ASSUMING that the sun has something to do with climate!?)


55 posted on 07/11/2008 10:36:45 PM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: 21twelve
And remember, that includes about 5 continental glaciations - as determined from ice cores going back hundreds of thousands of years. (Although, that is ASSUMING that the sun has something to do with climate!?)

And the good news is the Sun apparently is not going Super Nova. That would sure classify as abnormal. So I guess the fact that Earths temperature is well within historical 'norms', means that we do not have to worry about temperature.

56 posted on 07/12/2008 12:16:59 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: fanfan

“I wonder why the earth is so magnetically active now.”

It is not magneticlly “active”...it is decreasing and changing a lot faster than they thought!

12 December 2003 SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The strength of the Earth’s magnetic field has decreased 10 percent over the past 150 years, raising the remote possibility that it may collapse and later reverse, flipping the planet’s poles for the first time in nearly a million years, scientists said Thursday.

At that rate of decline, the field could vanish altogether in 1,500 to 2,000 years, said Jeremy Bloxham of Harvard University.

Hundreds of years could pass before a flip-flopped field returned to where it was 780,000 years ago.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/earth_magnetic_031212.html

Hmmm...10% decrease over the last 150 years!!!? ? the magnetic field protect us from ‘solar wind’ and Cosmic rays!

Cosmic Rays Linked To Global Warming
ScienceDaily (July 31, 2002) — WASHINGTON - Researchers studying global warming have often been confounded by the differences between observed increases in surface-level temperatures and unchanging low-atmosphere temperatures. Because of this discrepancy, some have argued that global warming is unproven, suggesting instead that true warming should show uniformly elevated temperatures from the surface through the atmosphere. Researchers have proposed a theory that changes in cloud cover could help explain the puzzling phenomenon, but none-until now-have come up with an argument that could account for the varying heat profiles.

A study in the July 2002 issue of Journal of Geophysical Research-Space Physics, published by the American Geophysical Union, proposes for the first time that interstellar cosmic rays could be the missing link between the discordant temperatures observed during the last two decades (since recorded satellite records began in 1979). The report, by Fangqun Yu of the State University of New York-Albany, proposes that the rays, tiny charged particles that bombard all planets with varying frequency depending on solar wind intensity, may have height-dependent effects on our planet’s cloudiness. Previous research has proposed a link between cosmic rays and cloud cover, has not suggested the altitude dependence of the current study...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/07/020731080631.htm


57 posted on 07/13/2008 4:39:17 AM PDT by Bulwinkle
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To: Bulwinkle
“I wonder why the earth is so magnetically active now.”

It is not magneticlly “active”...it is decreasing and changing a lot faster than they thought!

You are right, of course. Thanks.

I was referring to volcanic activity and earthquakes, but wasn't clear.

There was a new volcanic eruption in Alaska today, did you see? Ash plumes 38,000 feet up.

58 posted on 07/13/2008 12:15:17 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: RightWhale
... from spaceweather has a red-blue 3-D Mars image, anaglyph, showing where a rock has moved through the dust and left a channel.

That's one of the little Martian rock creatures that moved out of the way of our lander.

59 posted on 07/13/2008 1:59:05 PM PDT by rustbucket
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To: fanfan

I read about the volcano over the weekend...

There been a lot a magma on the move stories recently:

Heat From Earth’s Magma Contributing To Melting Of Greenland Ice

ScienceDaily (Dec. 18, 2007) —

Scientists have discovered what they think may be another reason why Greenland ‘s ice is melting: a thin spot in Earth’s crust is enabling underground magma to heat the ice.

They have found at least one “hotspot” in the northeast corner of Greenland — just below a site where an ice stream was recently discovered.

The researchers don’t yet know how warm the hotspot is. But if it is warm enough to melt the ice above it even a little, it could be lubricating the base of the ice sheet and enabling the ice to slide more rapidly out to sea.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071212103004.htm


60 posted on 07/14/2008 7:00:06 AM PDT by Bulwinkle
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