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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

No way dude. Read the material. There is one resurrection at the Last Trump. You guys believe Jesus comes three times. Ain’t gonna happen.

Actually it is an awful doctrine. It has made Casper Milquetoasts out of millions of Christians. Instead of girding their loins for the Tribulation, a time when millions will be saved (once the silly ‘rapture’ people figure out they’re still here), the rapturists are all just waiting for thier express ride up to Jesus.

You are going through the Tribulation. Be a witness for Jesus. Like Peter. Did Christ tell Peter he’s have an easy time and that Jesus would call him home before it got too tough? NO! He told him he would suffer and die for Christ.

Get off this silly rapture kick and get ready for your beheading. Witness to others by your strength. Not some foolish escape plan.


8 posted on 07/09/2008 3:58:38 PM PDT by gost2
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To: gost2
Sorry, but Paul tells us,

"For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ" (I Thess 5:9).

In the natural context, this is not talking about the wrath of hell, but the "day of the Lord" mentioned in 5:2, i.e. the time of the Tribulation. Indeed, the return of the Lord Jesus to the earth at the end of the Tribulation is not depicted in Scripture as a time of rejoicing for saints, it is depicted as a time when the slaughter of the enemies of God will take place (Matt. 24:27-28), and when the Lord will return to work flaming vengeance upon them who have rejected Him (II Thess 1:8) If one interprets I Thess 1:8 postmillenially, then the only recourse is to say that this event has already happened, since Paul says that the Lord will also come to be glorified in his saints and admired of them - but he addresses it to the Thessalonians as if it were going to happen to them. The only logical understanding of this verse is to see that Paul was speaking preveniently.

There's nothing in the Scripture at all about all the Christians going through the Tribulation, to have the Lord return for them after that event. True, there will be Christians in the Tribulation - but they are people who have never heard the Gospel before that event starts (per II Thess. 2:8-12), and who get saved during the Tribulation, as we see in Revelation. Indeed, one thing that postmillers always miss is that the sounding of the trumpet is never associated with the end of the Tribulation and the wreaking of vengeance by the Lord when He comes to establish His kingdom. Contextually, postmillennialism just doesn't work.

you can come up with all kind of little unscriptural arguments about "Casper Milquetoasts" and whatnot, but it doesn't change the fact that you are Scripturally wrong.

Work NOW, for the night is coming when no man can work, Christ told us. Time to serve Christ NOW, regardless of what tribulations (even up to death) we may have to go through now.

10 posted on 07/09/2008 4:12:41 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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