[Popman]

I am concerned about giving the government more powers than the Founder’s believed they should have.

You are a little late, Mr. Abe Lincoln is your chief problem, he started the ball rolling taking more government powers.

There is a huge difference between you and I. You believe the government is good and has our best interest in mind.

I'm sorry, that is so stupid a premise, it is not even worthy of a response. You have absolutely no idea what I think about the government.

Think classical liberalism and look it up the definition before you embarrass yourself thinking I'm a liberal

[PastorTony]

As a classical liberal then why are you so willing to give even more power to the government? While Lincoln surely started the ball rolling, are we just supposed to give up and surrender all rights because of an irrational fear of Muslims?

[PastorTony]

By the way you jumped into the accusing me first of being naive. I am well aware of what the government already has the power to do. Many of those powers are overreaching as it stands already. I believe we need to roll things back substantially. My point is in this whole topic is that we do not need to give them even more power than they already have. The ones who are being naive are those that think that this cannot be used against them one day. The 5th is there for a reason, further trampling of it for the sake of the “WOT” is not wise and conservatives should be opposing it.