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After protesting gun rule, Disney guard is fired
Orlando Sentinel ^ | July 8, 2008 | Scott Powers

Posted on 07/08/2008 1:21:49 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: TYVets

“the 1970 Occupational Health and Safety Act.”

How can a bureaucratic creation trump an individual right? This judge has the brain of a flea.


62 posted on 07/08/2008 4:28:58 PM PDT by sergeantdave (We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
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To: neverdem
Disney stated that its gun policy is based on safety concerns for visitors and employees.

So Disney doesn't' trust its employees? What about the food serve workers who could poison guests? Ride operators and maintainers who could kill dozens with a few bolt turnings? And anyone bent on mayhem who could just ignore the rule, since they're going to get fired at a minimum anyway, and run amok with no one to stop them?

What a bunch of Maroons!

To quote a rival Warner Brothers character

63 posted on 07/08/2008 4:38:14 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
However, the bill states that property owned or leased by an employer who has a permit required by federal law to manufacture, use, store or move explosives would still be off limits. Disney has a permit for its fireworks shows.

It's a dumb exception in first place, if the employees have access to real explosives, what's a gun or two going to matter when one of them loses his cabbage? (Except that no one will be able to shoot his sorry a$$ before he sets them off).

Secondly, Fireworks?

Give me a FReeping Break!

64 posted on 07/08/2008 4:43:37 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: neverdem

If Mickey thinks he is above the law he is #$%^@&g Goofy!


65 posted on 07/08/2008 4:50:54 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Beelzebubba

‘Not commenting on whether Disney has its own justice system, but trespass usually requires a refusal to leave.”

It sure does, most places like a shopping mall have to ask you to leave and have you refuse before actual trespass becomes an issue. The parks all have signs saying weapons are verbotten. Its my understanding thats why they think they can press charges because you were warned. I don’t know how often the charges stick but Disney pretty much owns the legal system in central Florida.


66 posted on 07/08/2008 5:06:44 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: neverdem; Joe Brower

“Disney advised its employees late last month that the theme-park resort is exempt from that state law”

Huh???


67 posted on 07/08/2008 5:09:54 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: neverdem

Whats going to happen when the Disney parks get a bunch of terrorists running around with AK 47s, IEDs or gas bombs? I would think any theme park would be a target rich environment.

I would actually feel safer knowing that concealed carry was happening in the park, last time I went I carried a .380 compact with me, next time I may do it as well or have a stun gun.


68 posted on 07/08/2008 5:16:26 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (The world WILL be cleaner, safer and more productive without Islam.)
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To: Travis McGee

They’re claiming an exemption because they use fireworks. IIRC, its described early in the thread. I’ve read another similar explanation.


69 posted on 07/08/2008 5:19:03 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem

I just read the whole thread. It won’t stand up, since fireworks manufacturing is not the rat’s primary business.


70 posted on 07/08/2008 5:25:26 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: neverdem; All

The particularly sad thing is Orlando is actually a fairly high crime area. Especially the areas around the parks where criminals prey on tourists. Its policed pretty heavily but car jackings and robberies are not uncommon.


71 posted on 07/08/2008 5:43:44 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Stark_GOP
Just like you have the right to determine if someone brings a weapon unto your property

I get so sick of hearing this disingenuous argument. Disney is not private property in the same sense that your house is private property. It IS A PUBLIC BUSINESS. They cannot keep people out because they're black. They cannot keep people out because they're handicapped. They cannot keep people out because they're gay. There are different expectations of what you can and cannot allow if you open a business to the public. If you open a public business you must lower your expectations on who and what you may allow on your property. (But of course you knew that. This argument has been gone over so many times on this forum that you'd have to be blind not to have seen it before. I don't know why I even bothered responding. )

72 posted on 07/08/2008 6:25:06 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: ExGeeEye

Now:

Yes 16141 81.8%

No 3423 17.4%

I don’t know 164 0.8%

Different computer :)


73 posted on 07/08/2008 6:28:01 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (I've been waiting since 11/04/79 for us (US) to do something about Iran.)
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To: TYVets
"Will Heller affect these rulings made in 2007 and before?"

AG, governor seek reversal on gun ruling (OK)

The appeals court will not issue its decision until later this year or next year.

I don't know if it can reverse decisions retroactively, but OK can still win on appeal, IMHO.

74 posted on 07/08/2008 7:57:58 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem
Should Disney employees with concealed-weapons permits be allowed to keep their guns in their cars while at work?

Wrong question, should have been: Does an American have the right to keep and bear arms, uninfringed?" I doubt the poll takers would even get this right.(pun intended)

75 posted on 07/08/2008 9:30:06 PM PDT by budwiesest (Barack is going to lose by 37 states. He'll only take 20.)
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To: Diverdogz; hiredhand; Squantos
disney parking lot / military bases ???

apples / oranges...

BTW, my wife and I went to the Patton museum [on Ft Knox ] and the only thing the MPs said was that we must be 'Bonnie & Clyde' as we were required to unload and store em in the trunk...

76 posted on 07/08/2008 9:55:36 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Trust in the Lord...vote yer conscience...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: gnarledmaw
employees with concealed-weapons permits should be allowed to keep their guns on their persons while at work."

It's even better than that. The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed- this includes Disney. They've every right to move their park to a location beyond the jurisdiction of the U.S. Constitution.

77 posted on 07/08/2008 10:12:15 PM PDT by budwiesest (Barack is going to lose by 37 states. He'll only take 20.)
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To: massgopguy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reedy_Creek_Improvement_District


78 posted on 07/08/2008 10:36:06 PM PDT by Master of Orion
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To: massgopguy

Yes, no 2nd amendment on Disney grounds. However, they do allow open buggery on the streets in Candy Cane Lane. And forget about the Butt Pirates of the Carribean and Mad Teabag Party rides...


79 posted on 07/09/2008 12:15:10 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Gilbo_3

Agree....... as usual common sense evades the minority !

My last trip too a “explosives manufacturing” facility included a question at the security of “was I armed” and I said yes and I was asked too leave firearm and spark producing items in my POV and secured. Common sense in play makes such an easy day !

Airbase near where I live and visit a few times a year always looks at my retired ID, and asks same question and as you stated , requests that I place my sidearm into the trunk or a locked container until I leave !


80 posted on 07/09/2008 3:05:49 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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