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Obama's Lottery , is it legal in Minnesota or any other State that has gambling laws?
Osama..err Obama's Campaign site ^ | July 8,2008

Posted on 07/08/2008 8:13:18 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776

Make a donation of $5 or more between now and midnight on July 31st, and you could be one of 10 supporters chosen to meet Barack backstage and watch his acceptance speech in person.

Each of the 10 selected supporters can bring a guest, and will be flown to Denver to spend two days at the convention, culminating in Barack's speech on Thursday, August 28th.

(Excerpt) Read more at donate.barackobama.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionlaws; electionpresident; fundraising; gambling; howtostealanelection; nobama2008; obama; obamalottery
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To: econjack
Oops..

Get idea, Obama...sorta like a lot of your other proposals.

shoudl be:

Great idea, Obama...sorta like a lot of your other proposals.

Sorry...

21 posted on 07/08/2008 8:34:57 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: visualops
visualops wrote: Additionally, what about people who have already given the “limit”, are they being “unfairly” excluded from the lottery?

That is a good question, below is the list of options you have to take a chance on winning an expense paid trip to Obama's Convention .. OTHER IS .. KIND OF INFINITY... Amount $5 $50 $250 $2,300 $25 $100 $1,000 Other: $ Credit Card

22 posted on 07/08/2008 8:35:29 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

Is Obama in the gambling business?

Yes. 3 Card Monte.


23 posted on 07/08/2008 8:37:23 AM PDT by weegee (What is the term for an irrational fear of American imperialism and why does the media never use it?)
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To: weegee

Also on the site...

you have to check one of these

Check this box to confirm that the following statements are true and accurate:
I am a United States citizen or a lawfully-admitted permanent resident.
I am at least 16 years old.
This contribution is not made from the general treasury funds of a corporation, labor organization or national bank.
This contribution is not made from the funds of a political action committee.
This contribution is not made from the treasury of an entity or person who is a federal contractor.
This contribution is not made from the funds of an individual registered as a federal lobbyist or a foreign agent, or an entity that is a federally registered lobbying firm or foreign agent.
The funds I am donating are not being provided to me by another person or entity for the purpose of making this contribution.

OPTIONAL

PARDON ME, BUT WHEN DID IT BECOME OKAY TO BE 16 YEARS OF AGE TO GAMBLE IN MOST STATES... EVEN IN NEVADA YOU CAN NOT GAMBLE AT 16


24 posted on 07/08/2008 8:38:45 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776
I seem to recall when i was 14, 15 and 16 having to buy lots of raffle tickets at my Catholic Church.

Do you want to put my Parish Priest in Prison?

25 posted on 07/08/2008 8:41:44 AM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: AmericanMade1776

If a federal contractor has 16 year olds at his home, can he play the Obama Casino online, but using his 16 year olds name, and can that federal Contractor’s 16 year old contribute OTHER....to the sum of thousands and thousands.


26 posted on 07/08/2008 8:42:12 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: trumandogz
trumandogz wrote: I seem to recall when i was 14, 15 and 16 having to buy lots of raffle tickets at my Catholic Church. Do you want to put my Parish Priest in Prison?

Was your parish Priest running for President of the United States, or was your Parish Priest using the money to do God's work? Big difference.

27 posted on 07/08/2008 8:43:40 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

Of course some think Obama is the Messiah, and that would make it alright to play Bingo for Obama.


28 posted on 07/08/2008 8:45:58 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

It says nothing about contributions from overseas being not welcomed.


29 posted on 07/08/2008 8:48:28 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

And for those who are betting on an Obama win, in bigger gambling circles, is this another way to insure they win big on other online gambling sites.


30 posted on 07/08/2008 8:49:57 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

These kind if national “contests” usually end with a “Void where prohibited by law.”


31 posted on 07/08/2008 8:51:34 AM PDT by IamConservative (Character: What you do when no one is looking.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

As far as I could tell the Parish Priest used the cash for recreational equipment, keeping the church grounds spruced up, feeding kids in Central America and perhaps a new car.

However, the priest during any one raffle may have raised 50k Obama with this raffle will raise at least 20 million.


32 posted on 07/08/2008 8:53:55 AM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: AmericanMade1776
It says nothing about contributions from overseas being not welcomed.

However, you do have to be an American Citizen or a legal permanent resident.

33 posted on 07/08/2008 8:56:22 AM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: AmericanMade1776

With the advent of the Internet it became possible for people to play lottery-style games on-line, many times for free (the cost of the ticket being supplemented by merely seeing, say, a pop-up ad). Two of the many websites which offer free games (after registration) include iwinweekly.com and the larger iWon.com, which is a wholly-owned subsidiary of IAC Search & Media. GTech Corporation, in the United States, administers 70% of the worldwide online and instant lottery business, according to its website. With online gaming rules generally prohibitive, “lottery” games face less scrutiny. This is leading to the increase in web sites offering lottery ticket purchasing services, charging premiums on base lottery prices. The legality of such services falls into question across many jurisdictions, especially throughout the United States, as the gambling laws related to lottery play generally have not kept pace with the spread of technology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotteries_in_the_United_States


34 posted on 07/08/2008 9:00:51 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: trumandogz

true, but how does one know if the one contributing has citizenship in the United States? Do they ask for documentation, do they ask for documentation that one is over 16, this system of gambling on Obama is so flawed, wonder what buffoon came up with this plan.


35 posted on 07/08/2008 9:04:43 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

In most states, non-profits need to obtain a license for gambling. The terms need to be spelled out an certain rules need to be followed.

Obama’s contest will have to be changed to include some way to enter at no cost (except to the soul).


36 posted on 07/08/2008 9:08:02 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: AmericanMade1776

if you donate you have to state that you are a U.S. citizen or legal permanent resident. That documentation is given to the FEC and if one lies about their legal status, they can be charged with perjury.


37 posted on 07/08/2008 9:12:32 AM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: trumandogz

A lottery is a promotional device by which items of value are awarded to members of the public by chance, but which requires some form of payment to participate. Even lotteries which aren’t conducted over the internet are illegal in the United States, except when conducted by states and certain exempt charitable organizations. If you believe you have received a solicitation in the guise of a sweepstakes which is an illegal lottery, you should contact your local post office or state Attorney General’s consumer protection office

http://www.consumerfraudreporting.org/governments.php


38 posted on 07/08/2008 9:37:19 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

It was illegal for minors to donate at one time. However the USSC ruled that this section was unconstitutional. So on what basis is the age limited to those 16 and above? And I don’t understand how foreign nationals who are in this country legally are permitted by law to donate to US political campaigns (they can).

http://www.fec.gov/law/feca/feca.pdf

Page 92

441k. Prohibition on contributions by minors

“An individual who is 17 years old or younger shall not make a contribution to a candidate or contribution or donation to a committee of a political party.”

Section 318 of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 (BCRA) , Pub. L. No. 107-55, ammended the Act to add section 441k. This amendment was effective as of November 6, 2002. However, in McConnell vs. FEC, 540 U.S. 93 (2003), The Supreme Court ruled that ammendment 441k was unconstitutional.


39 posted on 07/08/2008 9:49:49 AM PDT by weegee (What is the term for an irrational fear of American imperialism and why does the media never use it?)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Go ahead and contact the AG or FEC and perhaps you can get this fundraising vehicle of Obama’s stopped.

But, you had better act soon or Obama will raise 20-30 million before the SEC can bring a stop to it.


40 posted on 07/08/2008 9:52:26 AM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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