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To: monocle

None. Southwest didn’t speculate.

There is a difference between speculation and hedging. What SWA did is hedging, not speculation. SWA takes delivery of a commodity - in huge quantities.

Speculators neither produce, nor take delivery on, a commodity. They settle for cash no matter what side of the contract they’re on.


5 posted on 07/08/2008 4:14:08 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave
SWA takes delivery of a commodity - in huge quantities.

Can you show us their huge storage tanks? Who is on the other side of the contract?

6 posted on 07/08/2008 4:21:25 AM PDT by palmer (Tag lines are an extra $1)
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To: NVDave

Do you think those idiots in Congress will distinguish between hedging and speculation? Furthermore, the excesses of the hedge funds have provided politicians with perfect spin language.


7 posted on 07/08/2008 4:35:27 AM PDT by monocle
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To: NVDave
SWA takes delivery of a commodity - in huge quantities.

No they don't.

Speculators neither produce, nor take delivery on, a commodity.

Exactly. So how does buying and then selling a contract days, weeks or months later have a permanent impact on the price?

10 posted on 07/08/2008 6:50:15 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: NVDave
SWA airline buys and sells crude oil futures. They do not take any delivery of the crude oil.

They ultimately purchase jet fuel. Jet fuel has no futures market but since the biggest price component is crude oil, it follows crude oil pricing.

By trading crude oil futures they have protected themselves in a rising price market.

11 posted on 07/08/2008 6:57:03 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: NVDave

So what’s wrong with neither producing or taking actual delivery of something a person deals in?


14 posted on 07/08/2008 8:03:44 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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