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California grid urges conservation amid heat and fires
Reuters ^ | 7/7/08 | Bernie Woodall

Posted on 07/07/2008 8:02:53 PM PDT by Brilliant

With fires still causing concern among California power grid operators, this week brings high heat that may lead to near-record electricity demand throughout the state, the grid manager said on Monday.

The California Independent System Operator asked consumers to curb their power use in the peak 3 p.m. to 6 p.m. period Tuesday through Thursday as the grid nears capacity.

The Cal ISO manages lines owned by the three big investor-owned utilities that handle 80 percent of the state's power flow.

"This is going to be the first significant heat wave of the summer," said Cal ISO spokeswoman Stephanie McCorkle. "Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday will be when temperatures spike, and then they should fall off a bit on Friday."

Fires in the Santa Barbara area have caused outages since last Wednesday and continue to concern utility workers on Monday, said Jane Brown of the line's owner, Southern California Edison (SCE).

"The fire continues to burn in and around our lines," said Brown, speaking of the 220-kilovolt Goleta transmission line and the more local distribution lines. "It is very likely that we will have more power outages affecting large groups of people."

SCE spokeswoman Nancy Williams said at 5 p.m. PDT that while no outages had occurred to that point, it was likely about 48,000 customers will lose power on Monday evening as firefighters expected blazes directly under the Goleta line.

The likely outages would affect the same area impacted on Sunday in the Santa Barbara-Goleta area, Williams said...

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: California
KEYWORDS: caiso; calpowercrisis; electricity; energy; powergrid
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Who is John Galt?

They have an excuse for every failure.

1 posted on 07/07/2008 8:02:53 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Barring building a “Matrix” of their own, is there a power source California would endorse?


2 posted on 07/07/2008 8:07:02 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" - on amazon.com)
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To: Brilliant

The so-called government of California has turned our state electric power situation into a disaster. Beginning many years back, with corruption and malfeasance in obtaining power contracts, to the restrictions on building nuke electric power plants, and topped off by uncontrolled building creating obscene demands for MORE AND MORE POWER, and guess who has to pay for the handywork of these criminals??


3 posted on 07/07/2008 8:12:12 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Brilliant
The weather forecast calls for a high of 83 in Los Angeles for the whole week. That's a heat wave?

I was down there a few weeks ago and it was a lot hotter then.

4 posted on 07/07/2008 8:24:27 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: EagleUSA

Seems to me that’s a bi-partisan (and accurate) load of blame. Lots go to around for both sides of the aisle. As for nuclear...whatever I may think conceptually about the benefits...and I know all the arguments...I just can’t see raising my kids downwind of one.


5 posted on 07/07/2008 8:28:40 PM PDT by Nick5
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To: Cementjungle

In the meantime, we in N. Ca are being blasted with high temps projected to be as high as 107!


6 posted on 07/07/2008 8:29:35 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Arrogance IS my virtue!)
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To: EagleUSA
What government has done to our electric power supply is definitely a crime against our citizens. Not many years ago, utilities planned their generating, transmission and distribution capacity to meet customer needs. Those needs were met and capacity margins were sufficient to handle unexpected outages as well as maintenance outages. Today, with nonstop government meddling in the energy business, the systems have insufficient capacity to meet demand and, as a result, we get damn television commercials from our utilities telling us to cut back our power use! Liberals destroy everything they touch and control.
7 posted on 07/07/2008 8:37:21 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Cementjungle

We’re supposed to be 110-112 in central California.


8 posted on 07/07/2008 8:42:05 PM PDT by PERKY2004 (Please pray for my husband, deployed to Iraq for his 4th tour)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“we get damn television commercials from our utilities telling us to cut back our power use!”

And they have the nerve to call it “flex your power”.
We’re not flexing anything we’re told to cut back and not use.

In the greatest technological country on the planet we have to cut back on one of the basic utilities because the idiots don’t know how to run anything but entitlements to get votes.


9 posted on 07/07/2008 8:45:20 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I would add one more thought to what you said...

The more we conserve, the price grows larger!

Yet there is plenty of elictric power for the new malls and new homes being built!

I got a letter from PG&E, wanting to install a radio controled thermastat in MY home, so THEY could regulate my power usage!

The person that shows up to try it will be shot dead just inside my hallway beneath my newly installed thermostat I just had installed with my new HVAC unit!

$85.00 for 1324 sq. ft!


10 posted on 07/07/2008 8:47:58 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Arrogance IS my virtue!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I would add one more thought to what you said...

The more we conserve, the price grows larger!

Yet there is plenty of elictric power for the new malls and new homes being built!

I got a letter from PG&E, wanting to install a radio controled thermastat in MY home, so THEY could regulate my power usage!

The person that shows up to try it will be shot dead just inside my hallway beneath my newly installed thermostat I just had installed with my new HVAC unit!

$8500 for 1324 sq. ft!


11 posted on 07/07/2008 8:48:20 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Arrogance IS my virtue!)
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To: PERKY2004

Just got through mowing...it was still a “balmy” 97 degrees out there at 8pm. Forecast of 107 degrees tomorrow...typical Central California July weather!


12 posted on 07/07/2008 8:50:38 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Randy Larsen
I got a letter from PG&E, wanting to install a radio controled thermastat in MY home, so THEY could regulate my power usage!

Better yet, I got multiple calls to my home to schedule the installation of the "thermostat I ordered"...this was 6 months ago just after these were approved by the PUC.  Not many people knew about the program then, I wonder how many people they "suckered in".  Of course I told them I had ordered nothing of the kind, but they called one more time after that!



13 posted on 07/07/2008 8:57:42 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Brilliant

Watch the fun here:

http://www.caiso.com/outlook/SystemStatus.html

When the peak curve hits the green line, the fun starts!!


14 posted on 07/07/2008 9:01:38 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Drago

Screw ‘em!

I’m useing my new State Of The Art unit as much as I need it!

That’s why I paid the big bucks for it!

If I suspect any hanky pankey...I have a brand new thermastat sitting on my counter just waiting to be used!

*Note to self

Don’t hook up that blue wire!


15 posted on 07/07/2008 9:05:27 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Arrogance IS my virtue!)
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To: Nick5
As for nuclear...whatever I may think conceptually about the benefits...and I know all the arguments...I just can’t see raising my kids downwind of one.

Sadly, this kind of thought is brought on by ignorance. The environmental media has the majority of the public running scared of nuclear power when there is no evidence to support their scaremongering.

16 posted on 07/07/2008 9:11:39 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: Drago
Thanks for posting that link. When I got home today (about 3:30) I heard the dryer running and turned it off. Told the wife this was the worst time to run an electric dryer.(It was about 102F outside)

Seems 3-6pm is the highest usage. Still, we had a power hiccup lasted about 2 secs.

17 posted on 07/07/2008 9:16:27 PM PDT by budwiesest (Barack is going to lose by 37 states. He'll only take 20.)
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To: Cementjungle
The weather forecast calls for a high of 83 in Los Angeles for the whole week. That's a heat wave?

Yeah, but in Sacramento it will 111 degrees for the next three days. That IS hot!!

18 posted on 07/07/2008 9:23:25 PM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: Brilliant
Q:What did they use in California before they had had candles?

A: Electricity

19 posted on 07/07/2008 9:59:36 PM PDT by Polynikes (Yo, homie. Is that my briefcase?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; ElkGroveDan; calcowgirl; Carry_Okie; Randy Larsen; NormsRevenge; BOBTHENAILER; ..
Our government, that you rightly condemn, has been unduly influenced by malicious Hollywood activists and advocates and not enough of us people have given enough people in government enough back-bone to push back against said malicious influences.

I'm even seeing evidence on this thread of the phobic fear generated in the general public over "The China Syndrome" courtesy of Jane Fonda!!!

It's truly disgusting to see Japan and EVEN FRANCE (and even less advanced third-world countries) move far ahead using our technologically proven resources with complete safety, while we're brow-beaten with "Flex Your Power" utility PSA's!!!

It's all clearly a case of the "terminal stupids!" Two of the biggest monuments to stupidity are right here in the Capitol Region of CA... The abandoned twin cooling towers of Rancho Seco in Elk Grove and the halted Auburn Dam and Reservoir that was 2/3rds finished over 30 years ago!!!

20 posted on 07/07/2008 10:28:24 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm not against the environment, just GovernMental EnvironMentalism!!! (our new state religion))
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