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Where the Car Is King, Tysons (VA) Faces a Dilemma Urban Planners Take Aim at Free Parking
Washington Post ^ | July 5, 2008 | Amy Gardner

Posted on 07/07/2008 5:34:04 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

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To: KC_Conspirator

funny thing is that we live equidistant from Tysons and Fair Oaks and because i find it easier to park out at Fair Oaks that is where i go more often to shop. i really don’t consider the parking all that plentiful for shopping at Tysons, so i don’t know that i agree with the premise of the article. if i had to PAY to park while shopping [a la Pentagon City mall] I’d shop there even LESS!


21 posted on 07/07/2008 7:06:50 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: 3AngelaD

And now we get to the heart of why liberals promote Global Warming. They want to eliminate cars from the face of the earth. Even when all cars emit zero pollution, they will want to eliminate cars from the face of the earth. They want everyone walking in their Birkenstocks or riding public transportation. They want a herd of sheep, not independent people traveling independently. That’s a fact.


22 posted on 07/07/2008 7:07:30 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: xsmommy

I think before they get rid of parking, a pedestrian route accross the beltway at Rte 7 would be in order.


23 posted on 07/07/2008 7:11:01 AM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: patton

like the illegal alien pathway they are creating down at 7 corners, so that people can stop creaming them on the highway as they cross route 50?


24 posted on 07/07/2008 7:12:34 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: LS
I never go to downtown Dayton anymore, and don’t want to.

Things in downtown Dayton I go to:

Mendelson's Surplus, and I understand that is going to be moving.
Canal Street Tavern.
Government offices and jury duty. I avoid the first as much as possible and the second has come up twice in the past decade.

25 posted on 07/07/2008 7:21:01 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Whale oil: the renewable biofuel for the 21st century.)
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To: xsmommy

Oh, I forgot about that bridge.

No, I meant something better than the one-foot wide walkway alongside Rte 7, that I have had to use, if I want to walk to work.


26 posted on 07/07/2008 7:21:23 AM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: patton

oh for Gods sake get on a bike like the rest of the earthwatchers and ride in the middle of the road so as to slow traffic even more. it’s the fallchurcher way.


27 posted on 07/07/2008 7:24:09 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

LOLOLOLOL - pass.

But you are correct.


28 posted on 07/07/2008 7:29:54 AM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: xsmommy

Well, I would not do that either. Covnersely, I live by Pentagon City Mall and can actually walk there.


29 posted on 07/07/2008 8:27:17 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Yes, we are more difficult to control and dictate to when we have our own cars.


30 posted on 07/07/2008 9:14:52 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Forgot to say, “Green: the new Red”


31 posted on 07/07/2008 9:15:49 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD

We shop at Tysons perhaps two or three times a year - my wife has her fur put away for summer storage at one of the Tysons II furriers and that accounts for two of the trips. Otherwise, it’s Fair Oaks which is just down the road for us. (When I moved to Fairfax in 1976, Fair Oaks was a large cornfield.)

I worked for 20 years in the District and I do not miss that trip one bit.

The Taj has special parking in the underground, secured garage for the upper echelon. You wouldn’t want them to get wet in the rain or accidentally rub elbows with a taxpayer, would you?

I particularly like the moat around the Taj, or at least it would be a moat if we had more rain. Reminds me of the defensive ditches one finds around European castles to keep the peasants with pitchforks at bay. Perhaps that was in the architect’s mind.

For one reason or another it seems that we visit the Taj at least once a year. It’s nice to see the walnut paneling and the artwork on the walls that I’ve paid for. Plusher than most of the “for profit” places I’ve worked. I suppose it helps the county workers think big thoughts.

We paid off the mortgage some years ago and the 6-month tax bill arrived a few days ago - $4,040. That has really set me off (not that it takes much) on how Fairfax County has zero concept of how to do anything other than spend money.

Jack


32 posted on 07/07/2008 11:32:10 AM PDT by JackOfVA
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To: CharlesWayneCT

There’s a nifty design used in Germany that I like. The parking lot is surfaced with something like a rectangular open core concrete block, placed so the open core faces up. Looking at the top of the parking lot,it looks like [ ][ ][ ] and in the open core, grass grows. The concrete block provides support for the vehicle while the grass grows in the hollow core. Rain can soak in through the open grass area and it also stays much cooler than either asphalt or concrete with 100% coverage. Requires grass cutting, of course.

Jack


33 posted on 07/07/2008 11:37:24 AM PDT by JackOfVA
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To: JackOfVA

I have no doubt this is leading toward tyranny, the particular tyranny of the petty bureaucrat, but tyranny none the less. Obviously motivated peasants with pitchforks and burning torches have not reached critical mass yet. (God what a hidous mixed metaphor that is!) Anyway, maybe taking away their cars will make them reach for their pitchforks. I have a personal aversion for Gerry Connolly that knows no boundaries. I live in Alexandria so Tysons’ is much closer to me than Fair Oaks.


34 posted on 07/07/2008 11:39:05 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Truth29

The old County office complex is in Fairfax City (Massey Building) but the new center is a couple miles west of Fairfax City.

The County outgrew the Fairfax City complex, and built at least three or four very large, very expensive buildings at the new center and then expanded the old Fairfax City complex as well. The old complex has become the justice center, with the jail, court house(s), police, etc. The administrative offices are in the new complex.

And, the Fairfax County school board wants a second office building, probably the old AAA headquarters at Route 50 and the Beltway (most recently it was the American Red Cross HQ.)

Hey, it’s only taxpayer dollars to build these grand buildings. Not like it’s important to save money. There’s a bottomless pit of tax revenue they can dip into.

Jack


35 posted on 07/07/2008 11:45:36 AM PDT by JackOfVA
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To: JackOfVA

Oh, I know. I am familiar with both the Old Massey building area and the new center on Monument Drive near Fairfax Corner. I just thought that the new center was still considered within the Fairfax City designation. I might be wrong.


36 posted on 07/07/2008 12:12:54 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Truth29

I vaguely remember having to feed a meter at the County building some years ago, and it was a pain because I had no change whatsoever.


37 posted on 07/07/2008 3:20:55 PM PDT by angkor (Conservatism is not now and never has been a religious movement.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Uh-Oh!

I live in the middle of “flyoverland”, am as conservative as they come, and I wear Birkenstocks!

Quit pickin’ on us elderly with foot trouble, willya!


38 posted on 07/07/2008 3:25:55 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: jacquej

I can’t help the things the LibDemComs choose to stereotype themselves with. Birkenstocks are as much an item of the liberal stereotype as guns are of the Conservative stereotype. I’m sure some liberals own guns and go shooting, but it doesn’t negate the stereotype.


39 posted on 07/07/2008 4:48:52 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Well, my very conservative husband wears them because he has Parkinson’s and they are easy to slip on his feet. You see, he can’t bend over. He aslo has chronic venous insufficiency, and sandal birks fit over his compression stockings, and the thick wool socks he has to wear.

I wear them because I have a bad case of Morton’s neuroma, and want to avoid surgery.

Maybe you can start a conservative footwear company that will help aging feet, and won’t be “liberal stereotypical’?


40 posted on 07/07/2008 4:59:24 PM PDT by jacquej
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