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To: wardaddy

Easy tiger easy.

I have no doubt that a certain type of Muslim has waged war in the name of religion like no other religion in all of history.

But I wasn’t trying to make that arguement.

Not all muslims are terrorists and suicide bombers. To say so is has you say “poppycock”.

While there is no doubt a large section of Muslims that wish to wage war in the name of striking down the infidels, the point is Christianity has had it’s own battles with zealots.

In western culture the witch burning and inquisitions didn’t swollow up our culture. They now and rightfuly so are looked down at has black marks on our history.

The war of idea’s in Muslim culture unfortunately hasn’t exactly been pushing them away from bombing en mass. That doesn’t mean that the war for ideas will not push the Muslim culture to look back at this time with contempt.


33 posted on 07/06/2008 4:25:20 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Almondjoy

I think it will always continue because there is 95% of teaching that promotes decent values towards oneself and others and there is 5% that advocates murder, Jews as below pigs and apes and that if you don’t believe and convert, you are an enemy combatant that can and should be lied to, betrayed, etc. etc. etc. It is the foundation of the religion itself that must change but don’t you dare question Mohamad or we’ll kill you!

The inquisition had no biblical foundation for such behavior, it preyed on the ignorance and lack of printed editions of the bible to attempt to get away with obvious politically inspired behavior. No foundation, no long-term practice or behavior.

Totally different set of circumstances. While we hope Islam looks back and think about the wisdom or self-adjustment, to me they will be looking back like the Japanese do with how they viewed Emporer Hirohito. Biblically speaking, both seeds of Abraham were told they would become great nations. In Islam, the first-born son of the Israeli nation is despised and is lower then pigs and apes. It’s wishful thinking they will self-adjust on there own and that indeed is a shame.


37 posted on 07/06/2008 6:20:29 PM PDT by quant5
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To: Almondjoy
Not all muslims are terrorists and suicide bombers.

AND

In western culture the witch burning and inquisitions didn’t swollow up our culture.

 

Ahh, the old liberal moral equivalence argument.  Why are you living the liberal lie?  60-90% of Americans identify themselves as Christian.  What percentage of them actually are majority Sunday attenders, believe the Apostles' Creed (or can recite it), and can explain their relationship with Christ.

Adherent Muslims are either terrorists, suicide bombers, sympathizers of both, or will refuse to reject the former.  Disagree?  Name the moderate Islamic organization that is fighting to be the voice of Islam.  Therefore, it doesn't really matter, does it, if every Mo doesn't wear a TNT belt?  The West will begin winning the "WOT," in a longterm and meaningful way, once these facts our recognized publicly. 

 With regards to the inquistion/witch burning, you are comparing apples and oranges: Afterall, there is quite a bit of difference between Islamist killing Westerners, and Westerners killing their own.  I hope you recognize this... please read the liberal media if you doubt me on the shared friendship between Shiites and Sunnis.  Additionally, parroting the secularist talking points is also disingenuine regarding the eeevilll Christians and the Inquistion/Witchburning.  The last scholarly work I read estimated that it is unlikely that more than two thousand people were executed for heresy by the Inquisition [The Inquisition edited by Brenda Stalcup and Henry Kamen's The Spanish Inquisition].  Nothing to be proud of, but consider it in light of 911.

Honestly, I'm not trying to make this personal, but rather, plead with others to recognize these arguments that we see all too often, coming from both the left and, unfortunately, the right.  It may very well be a matter of our own survival.
 

 

 



39 posted on 07/06/2008 7:23:29 PM PDT by Harrius Magnus (I am the town square.)
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To: Almondjoy

Equivocating Christians with Muslim historical excess and a said propensity of violence is intellectually dishonest.

it usually just belies a rejection and contempt for Christianity


41 posted on 07/06/2008 8:10:56 PM PDT by wardaddy (most white people are stupid piles of brainwashed guilt addled mush)
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