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Tiptoeing on Bush and Convention
New York Times ^ | July 5, 2008 | SHERYL GAY STOLBERG

Posted on 07/05/2008 5:29:59 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP

WASHINGTON — What if your family was planning a big end-of-summer bash (a Grand Old Party, you might call it) but preferred that you not be seen — or heard?

That is the question hanging over President Bush, with eight weeks to go until Republicans gather in St. Paul to nominate Senator John McCain as his successor. Convention planners, the White House and the McCain campaign are wrestling with how to choreograph a proper send-off for Mr. Bush — sure, his poll numbers are in the tank, but he is still the party leader and president of the United States — while hustling him out the door in time for Mr. McCain to look like his own man.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008rncconvention; bush; electionpresident; mccain; rncconvention
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To: Marie2

I would go for that, I met George Bush in March of 2000 and have been a loyal supporter ever since, the more history I read the better Bush appears.


21 posted on 07/05/2008 6:39:05 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

I hope the McCain committee and Pres. Bush read every word of this NY Slimes article so that they can do the exact opposite.


22 posted on 07/05/2008 6:46:03 PM PDT by kitkat (DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW)
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To: E. Cartman

***Hmmm, I thought he promised NOT to piss away American treasure and spill American blood on foreign adventures. ***

Hmmm...you’re calling 9/11 a “foreign adventure.” Were you there? Did you see the carnage? Would you have liked our President to just sit there and let them do it again?


23 posted on 07/05/2008 6:50:18 PM PDT by kitkat (DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

Excuse me .. the last poll I saw showed that 76% of repubs HAD A FAVORABLE OPINION OF THE PRESIDENT - even though they didn’t agree with everthing he’s done or tried to do.

This is just more of the NYT trying to insert itself into our convention .. like we give a rip what those people think.


24 posted on 07/05/2008 6:52:12 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Michael Yon: "The U.S. military is the most respected institution in Iraq.")
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To: frankiep
Call me crazy, but shouldn't securing our borders have fit in there somewhere?

No, I agree completely! As I said, I have some problems with Pres. Bush. Border security and no amnesty for illegal aliens is one of them. But, again, we all knew that Bush had a soft spot in his heart(head?) for illegals in the country.

Even though Bush was on the wrong side of the issue, we still managed to stop the amnesty bill last year. And Duncan Hunter managed to get his border fence bill passed and signed into law by Pres. Bush. We do have successes to point to in this area but a whole lot more needs to be done.

25 posted on 07/05/2008 7:05:42 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: CyberAnt
I think you are right, feature President Bush prominently, the Republican faithful will appreciate it; the moderates who vote Republican, and may be less enthused by Bush aren't going to watch the convention anyway.
26 posted on 07/05/2008 7:10:58 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

Seems like the Dems have a lot more ‘splaining to do with Jimmy Carter.


27 posted on 07/05/2008 7:30:44 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: musicman

agreed!

On the most central characteristics of the presidency president Bush has been I incredible.


28 posted on 07/05/2008 8:01:12 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: E. Cartman

Careful... too many leftist buzzwords in one sentence may arouse suspicion.


29 posted on 07/05/2008 9:17:17 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: upsdriver; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; bcsco
we all knew that Bush had a soft spot in his heart (head?) for illegals in the country

SPEAK FOR YOURSELF!...or is that the royal WE?

I didn't and I bet the millions of callers who shut down the DC phone lines didn't realize he would do this either!!!

Even though Bush was on the wrong side of the issue, we still managed to stop the amnesty bill last year

You mean the bill that will not die?...the bill that keeps coming back in other forms?...the bill that McCain & Obama can't wait to pass/enforce?...THAT BILL?

And Duncan Hunter managed to get his border fence bill passed and signed into law by Pres.Bush......HUH????????

You mean the bill that Hunter worked so hard for, and after the photo-op, Bush and Congress deliberately ignored, watered down and stonewalled?.....THAT BILL?

Stop ignoring the facts, upsdriver!..!!

30 posted on 07/06/2008 4:41:28 AM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: cmsgop
Then 9/11 happened, kinda changed alot of things

Everyone is correct about 9/11, but our involvement in Kosovo hasn't made a lick of sense. When we're fighting the WOT, why are we helping to build an Islamic bridgehead in the heart of Eastern Europe?

31 posted on 07/06/2008 6:24:32 AM PDT by E. Cartman (Just say "No" to mug-whores.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; kitkat
Careful... too many leftist buzzwords in one sentence may arouse suspicion.

While we had to do something about 9/11 in Afghanistan, spending the money of future generations of Americans in what's becoming an interminable war in Iraq to benefit the globe in hindsight makes less and less sense...and if Bush were really concerned about them not coming here, he'd secure the borders and the ports.

If Kosovo isn't a misguided Wilsonian adventure, then there never was one.

32 posted on 07/06/2008 6:30:38 AM PDT by E. Cartman (Just say "No" to mug-whores.)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
I think you are right, feature President Bush prominently, the Republican faithful will appreciate it; the moderates who vote Republican, and may be less enthused by Bush aren't going to watch the convention anyway.

Real conservatives won't waste time watching the convention.

33 posted on 07/06/2008 6:31:57 AM PDT by E. Cartman (Just say "No" to mug-whores.)
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To: E. Cartman
I guess five years after the fact, it just gets easier and easier to lie about the reasons for toppling Saddam's terrorist regime.

If you think we went in to benefit the globe (whatever that means), you weren't paying very close attention. We did it for our own security and the security of our allies, and we did the right thing.

34 posted on 07/06/2008 9:54:10 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: E. Cartman

Refresh me... when did President Bush invade Kosovo again?


35 posted on 07/06/2008 9:56:17 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Refresh me... when did President Bush invade Kosovo again?

He didn't, but to take on an unviable, artificially created country like Kosovo as a client is always an expensive proposition. Until Bush, I didn't think anyone could pee away public money as fast and as irresponsibly as a democrat.

36 posted on 07/06/2008 10:10:18 AM PDT by E. Cartman (Just say "No" to mug-whores.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
We did it for our own security and the security of our allies, and we did the right thing.

I once believed that, and I also once believed in the Easter bunny.

37 posted on 07/06/2008 10:12:31 AM PDT by E. Cartman (Just say "No" to mug-whores.)
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To: E. Cartman

You once believed it? What has since made you believe otherwise? The compelling arguments of Howard Dean, Ramsey Clark, Dan Rather and Jodie Evans?

Since you seem to have all the facts needed to exonerate Saddam Hussein and his regime at hand, maybe you could tell me why the Czechs really expelled Iraqi Consul Ahmad Khalil Ibrahim Samir al-Ani from their country on 4/21/2001.

While you’re at it, maybe you could also tell me how convicted WTC bomber/KSM associate Abdul Rahman Yasin made it onto Saddam’s payroll and managed to stay there for nearly ten years?

And what exactly was the deal with terrorist training camp at Salman Pak? You know, the one with the Tupelov-154 passenger jet used to train Islamists in weaponless hijacking?

Please, tell me how all the facts of Saddam’s terror ties have been disproved. You get extra credit if you can use actual facts in the place of leftist catch-phrases and DNC talking points.


38 posted on 07/06/2008 10:28:12 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: E. Cartman

All this talk of Kosovo and not one mention of the man who created the mess. Just a weak attempt to lump it in with all of Jorge’s other supposed failings.

Telling.


39 posted on 07/06/2008 10:31:12 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
All this talk of Kosovo and not one mention of the man who created the mess. Just a weak attempt to lump it in with all of Jorge’s other supposed failings.

No attempt to lump it into Jorge's other failings whatsover. I've not forgotten that that foreign adventure started under Clinton. But, that he chose to entangle us further into that sad part of the world only told me that, at bottom, Bush is just another two-bit politician.

And, if we're going to try and be an empire, at least let's get something out of it. They might have been corrupt, but at least the Romans and French were smart enough to make their imperial adventures economically worthwhile. Because we're such good guys (and the American nation is), our leaders are letting us and our children pay for their imperial misadventures.

40 posted on 07/06/2008 2:37:16 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Just say "No" to mug-whores.)
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