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Libertarians Favor Obama and Other Looks at Election 2008
Rasmussen Reports ^ | July 05, 2008 | Rasmussen Reports

Posted on 07/05/2008 10:45:48 AM PDT by Kleebo151

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To: Maine Mariner

I would bet that most real libertarians, like Neil Boortz, will in no way vote for Obama.


61 posted on 07/05/2008 12:01:36 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: Kleebo151

“Two groups of voters each include 10% of the voting population - those who are fiscally conservative and socially moderate along with those who are fiscally moderate and socially conservative. Among the first group, McCain leads 67% to 25%. Among the latter, McCain’s advantage is smaller, 51% to 40%. “

Why do fiscal conservatives and social conservatives supporting Obama?

This is madness! It must be that they have no clue how far left Obama really is on both fiscal and social issues.


63 posted on 07/05/2008 12:03:14 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Stepan12
Ayn Rand described Libertarians as crazies who plagiarized her ideas

Oh screw her . She is just still mad at me for calling "Anne".

64 posted on 07/05/2008 12:03:31 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: Abbeville Conservative
This is why the Libertarian Party is a complete joke.
This is why your comment is a complete joke.
There are, or were until 2006, more libertarians in the Republican Party than there are in the Libertarian Party.
If you'd do a little research you'd find that the Conservative Movement was founded by libertarians. If you're not a libertarian you're not a Conservative.
65 posted on 07/05/2008 12:05:01 PM PDT by radioman
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To: BGHater

“Easy pick. Obama for President.

Republicans act like Republicans when there is a Rat President.”

And what good is that going to do to anyone — Obama will have a Democrat Congress, most likely a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, all the Republicans can do is whine, they will have NO power whatsoever to stop any of the Dem agenda. ALL THREE branches of the government will be in the hands of the Democrats — just think of the judges Obama will appoint and the Dem Senate will confirm.

Not to mention the we will surrender to the terrorists under President Obama.


66 posted on 07/05/2008 12:06:51 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Abbeville Conservative
"Boortz"

Boortz was outraged with his party when at their last national convention they made supporting the legalization of marijuana the main issue. I don't know what Boortz feels about drugs (I suspect he is for legalizing marijuana and might be pro-choice on abortion), but his number one most important issue is national security.

70 posted on 07/05/2008 12:21:11 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: FocusNexus
America will vote again in 2010. Americans will cast aside socialism and vote for conservatives. Thats why.

Vote for McCain. Thats amnesty and more big government. Might as well have Obama push for that. Republicans will fight against it and also, Obama will have to be hawkish in order to fight back criticisms from the right.

71 posted on 07/05/2008 12:26:02 PM PDT by BGHater (Heller v. DC= McCain-Feingold for Gun Control)
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To: kbennkc
Oh screw her . She is just still mad at me for calling "Anne".

Maybe you should've called her Alice (Alissa).

72 posted on 07/05/2008 12:29:57 PM PDT by Stepan12 ( "We are all girlymen now." Conservative reaction to Ann Coulter's anti PC joke)
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To: EDINVA
Poor Mr. Fairey seems to miss the Golden Era of Communism.

Poor Mr. Fairey, like thousands of others, including those running Obama's camp, wants to bring back that era. Don't for a minute think those days are over. That is what the left-wing media wants us to think. Yet even people like Sean Hannity, Limbaugh and Laura Ingram rarely if ever brings up the strong commie connection in all this. And despite the fact that both Rev Wright and Bill Ayers are, to this day, revolutionary communists, Hannity hasn't once mentioned it, except for one special Friday night edition of Hannity's America.

Bill Ayers (April 6, 2008), from his own red communist star-headed website, begging to debate communism vs capitalism with Sean Hannity and STILL calling for revolution!

"Imperialism. I’m against it, and if Sean Hannity and others were honest, this is the ground they would fight me on. Capitalism played its role historically and is exhausted as a force for progress: built on exploitation, theft, conquest, war, and racism, capitalism and imperialism must be defeated and a world revolution—a revolution against war and racism and materialism, a revolution based on human solidarity and love, cooperation and the common good —must win.

We begin by releasing our most hopeful dreams and our most radical imaginations: a better world is both possible and necessary.

Source: http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/04/page/2/

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"God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11"
--Rev Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for twenty years

Wright: "In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the Western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just 'disappeared' as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring Black concerns."

"America’s chickens... are coming home... to ROOST!"

The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine
Monday , May 5, 2008
FoxNews/Hannity's America
[special Friday night edition--original airdate May 2, 2008]

(some key excerpts)

[video clip from Wright's March 2007 appearance on Hannity & Colmes]
WRIGHT: "Our congregation stood in solidarity with the peasants in El Salvador and Nicaragua while our government through Ollie North and the Iran-Contra scandal were supporting the contras who were killing the peasants and the Miskatow Indians in those two countries."

["Diaz-Balart is the son of Rafael Diaz-Balart y Guitierrez (a former Cuban politician). He has three bothers, Rafael Diaz-Balart (a banker), Mario Diaz-Balart (a US Congressman) and Lincoln Diaz-Balart (also a US Congressman). His aunt, Mirta Diaz-Balart, was Fidel Castro's first wife."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Diaz-Balart]

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK: "Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

REV. BOB SCHENCK, NATIONAL CLERGY COUNCIL: "it's based in Marxism. At the core of his [Wright's] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God, and as part of a long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology. That's very, very dangerous."

SCHENCK: "I was actually the only person escorted to Dr. Wright. He asked to see me, and I simply welcomed him to Washington, and then I said Dr. Wright, I want to bring you a warning: your embrace of Marxist liberation theology. It is contrary to the Gospel, and you need, sir, to abandon it. And at that he dropped the handshake and made it clear that he was not in the mood to dialogue on that point."

Source: The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html

From the Louis Farrakhan/Nation of Islam website, Final Call...
Malik Zulu Shabazz, chairman of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense (NBPP):
"We are happy today to be standing side by side with the Nation of Islam. We believe, like the Nation of Islam and the Honorable Elijah Muhammad believe, in a nation of our own. We believe in a Black first philosophy and a Black Liberation Theology. We don’t worry about the criticism. We love all of those who labored in the Panther Party from the ’60s. Many are with us today."
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_1858.shtml

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From the Maoist Internationist Movement:
[1960s] Black Panther Party [BPP] Archives
From the article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROES

"On May 1st, May Day [1969], the day of the gigantic Free Huey rally, two of Alioto's top executioners vamped on the brothers from the Brown Community who were attending to their own affairs. These brothers, who are endowed with the revolutionary spirit of the Black Panther Party defended themselves from the racist pig gestapo.

Pig Joseph Brodnik received his just reward with a big hole in the chest. Pig Paul McGoran got his in the mouth which was not quite enough to off him.

The revolutionary brothers escaped the huge swarm of pigs with dogs, mace, tanks and helicopters, proving once again that "the spirit of the people is greater than the man's technology."

To these brothers the revolutionary people of racist America want to say, by your revolutionary deed you are heroes, and that you are always welcome to our camp."

Source: Maoist Internationist Movement
Article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROS (May 11, 1969):
http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/bpp/index.html

Louis Farrakhan, at the Millions More Movement rally in DC, Oct 15, 2005: "...what Mao Tse Tung did was, he went to the cultural community, and they [Farrakhan spreads his arms beneficently] accepted his idea."..."Mao Tse Tung ... had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."..."the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people, and China became a world power on the base of the culture and the arts community. If we had a ministry of art and culture in every city we'd create this movement [in the U.S.]."
Source: http://thedrunkablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/communist-plot-noted.html

Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998: "There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Comandante Fidel at its head"
Source: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/farakhan21898.html#says


"Minister Farrakhan and his delegation met privately with President Fidel Castro of Cuba."
http://www.finalcall.com/media/cuba/

Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Obama's pastor and spirtual advisor "crazy uncle" of more than 20 years, honors "Honorable" Minister Louis Farrakhan with the "Jeremiah A. Wright Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer Award" at the 2007 Trumpet Gala held at the Hyatt Regency Chicago.
[it appears the original video was removed, but this one is identical to it]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW2OhkZ0RSg

Louis Farrakhan, at the annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008: "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better"..."If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."
Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4337417

Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02

From "45 Communist Goals":
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

Catholics for Marx
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD

WRIGHT: In the late 1960's when James Cone's powerful books burst on to the scene, the term "black liberation theology" began to be used. The prophetic tradition of the black church has its roots in Isaiah the 61st chapter where God says the prophet is to preach the gospel to the poor and to set at liberty those who are held captive.
Source: The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html

From Jeff Head's website...
One notable quote from [James] Cone describing his Black Liberation Theology is as follows:

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love." - "Divine Racism: The Unacknowledged Threshold Issue for Black Theology", in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, by William R Jones, ed Cornel West and Eddie Glaube (Westminster John Knox Press).
http://www.jeffhead.com/blacklibtheology.htm

HANNITY: But Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not backing down and has not for years and in his strong stance on the teaching of black liberation theology is nothing new. He had the same things to say last spring when he appeared on "Hannity & Colmes:"

WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the '60s, systematized black liberation theology that started with Jim Cone in 1968 and the writings of Cone and the writings of Dwight Hopkins and the writings of womynist theologians and Asian theologians and Hispanic theologians, then you can't talk about the black value system.

HANNITY: But I'm a — reverend

WRIGHT: Do you know liberation theology, sir?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html

From the New York Times, April 28, 2008
Reverend Wright at the National Press Club
"In the late 1960s, when Dr. James Cone's powerful books burst onto the scene, the term 'black liberation theology' began to be used. I do not in any way disagree with Dr. Cone, nor do I in any way diminish the inimitable and incomparable contributions that he has made and that he continues to make to the field of theology. Jim, incidentally, is a personal friend of mine."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/us/politics/28text-wright.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=sloginL

YouTube: Glenn Beck on Obama and Black Liberation Theology.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cA0GEV1ibY&eurl=http://maggiesnotebook.blogspot.com/2008/04/im-speechless.html

73 posted on 07/05/2008 12:31:55 PM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
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To: BGHater

“America will vote again in 2010. Americans will cast aside socialism and vote for conservatives. Thats why.”

That was the reason “conservatives” gave in 2006 for staying home and look where that got us — a Dem Congress and now the same so-called “conservatives” want to finish it by turning the entire country over to the leftist Marxist Democrats. Great way to “advance the conservative agenda” (sarcasm, in case it’s not obvious to some)

Not to mention that you are completely detached from reality. Voter Demographics show that Dems and Dem leaning independents vastly outnumber Republicans and overwhelmingly outnumber conservatives. You don’t get elected with 15% of the votes.


74 posted on 07/05/2008 12:33:24 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Baynative

Did he really say that? Have you got a link? Because that sounds disturbingly like Brownshirts or even Gestapo.


75 posted on 07/05/2008 12:34:48 PM PDT by saganite
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To: Baynative
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we have set. We have got to have a civilian national security force that is just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."

You mean like these guys Bambi ?


76 posted on 07/05/2008 12:37:33 PM PDT by clamper1797 (GWB was shock and awe ... Nobama is shuck and jive)
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To: clamper1797
More like these guys...


77 posted on 07/05/2008 12:44:55 PM PDT by ETL (Plenty of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my FR home page)
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To: ETL

Either one would be correct ... his wanting of a “private” (posse commitatus not withstanding) security force is very telling and very very ominous


78 posted on 07/05/2008 12:48:21 PM PDT by clamper1797 (GWB was shock and awe ... Nobama is shuck and jive)
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To: Baynative

In the context of that speech it looks like he’s talking about a auper sized peace corps type organization. Although that’s not what I first thought when I read the quote it’s completely hairbrained.


80 posted on 07/05/2008 12:57:06 PM PDT by saganite
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