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To: FatherofFive

Dr. Jasser is muslim and he is not evil. He has been doing a great service by speaking out and condemning islamists and trying to reveal the islamist agenda in this country and worldwide.
In that paragraph you site, and throughout the article he is primarily addressing other muslims and telling them not to be taken in by the tactics of the wahhabi lobby which tries to portray itself as the voice of most muslims in the U.S. It is the voice of a very small minority. Unfortunately, the media, many politicians and others (you included) don’t or won’t make a distinction.

The next time you read a story about an Iraqi muslim saving the life of an American soldier - and many have - you can try to rationalize your “The only time they’re happy is when they’re killing, maiming, or destroying.” Good luck.


5 posted on 07/05/2008 9:21:41 AM PDT by nuconvert (Obama - Preferred by 4 out of 5 Dictators & Terrorists)
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To: nuconvert

Europe is just finding out how severe , evil and all encompassing Sharia law is. England is suffering through it now and on RCP today, there is an article just on that subject. Islam is not, not part of our Western, Judeo-Christian heritage and would change this entire culture back, back to the 7th Century. Of course, there are Western influenced Muslim, thank God. Or else , like in 750AD, we would have them at the gates and would have to have a guy like Charles Martel to stop them!


6 posted on 07/05/2008 9:31:36 AM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: nuconvert

About 10% of Muslims are not evil and do not try to rip off the infidel

The remaining 90% are Jihadists or those who support them or like what they do.


8 posted on 07/05/2008 9:50:41 AM PDT by dennisw (Barack Obama: A Phony Smile in an Empty Suit)
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To: nuconvert
It is the voice of a very small minority.

Please help me understand this command:

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 9:29 (Jizya is the money that non-Muslims must pay to the Muslim overlords in a pure Islamic state.)

If you follow the words of your prophet, when you meet me, a Christian, you give me three choices:
1. Convert to Islam
2. Be killed
3. Submit and pay the jizya

Where am I wrong? Peaceful co-existence does not seem to be the will of Allah.

I used to believe the God of the Jew, the Christian and the Muslim was the God of Abraham. Until I started learning about the cult of death called Islam.

14 posted on 07/05/2008 12:10:06 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED)
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To: nuconvert; verga
you can try to rationalize your “The only time they’re happy is when they’re killing, maiming, or destroying.” Good luck.

Thanks for your input and comment. I will change this to: “The only time they are truly following the command of Allah is when they are killing in his name, forcing conversions to Islam, or subjugating and taxing non-believers."

Is that better?

All muslims are not-evil. Islam is evil.

16 posted on 07/05/2008 12:37:42 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED)
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To: nuconvert
The next time you read a story about an Iraqi muslim saving the life of an American soldier - and many have - you can try to rationalize your “The only time they’re happy is when they’re killing, maiming, or destroying.” Good luck.

There are probably a lot of people who grew up under Islam who are good and decent people.

However, their goodness and decency are in spite of Islam, not because of it. Similarly, there are people who grew up under Christianity who occupy their days with rape, robbery and murder

Islam, at it's core, is inherently evil. That there are good Muslims does not redeem the ideology of Islam, any more than the existence of bad Christians condemns Christianity

18 posted on 07/05/2008 12:52:31 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: nuconvert
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The following is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components. Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights'.

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

Nation % Muslim
United States 1.0%
Australia 1.5%
Italy 1.5%
Norway 1.8%
Canada 1.9%
China 2.0%



At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Nation % Muslim
Denmark 2.0%
United Kingdom 2.7%
Germany 3.7%
Spain 4.0%
Thailand 4.6%



From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States).

Nation % Muslim
Switzerland 4.3%
Philippines 5.0%
Sweden 5.0%
The Netherlands 5.5%
Trinida and Tabago 5.8%
France 8.0%



At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world. When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam - Mohammed cartoons).

Nation % Muslim
Guyana 10.0%
India 13.4%
Israel 16.0%
Kenya 10.0%
Russia 15.0%



After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Nation % Muslim
Ethiopia 32.8%



At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Nation % Muslim
Bosnia 40.0%
Chad 50.1%
Lebanon 59.7%



From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Nation % Muslim
Albania 70.0%
Malaysia 60.4%
Qatar 77.5%
Sudan 70.0%



After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Nation % Muslim
Bangladesh 83.0%
Egypt 90.0%
Gaza 98.7%
Indonesia 86.1%
Iran 98.0%
Iraq 97.0%
Jordan 92.0%
Morocco 98.7%
Pakistan 97.0%
Syria 90.0%
Tajikistan 90.0%
Turkey 99.8%
United Arab Emirates 96.0%



100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Nation % Muslim
Yemen 99.9%
Afghanistan 100.0%
Saudi Arabia 100.0%
Somalia 100.0%




Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

"Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel."

– Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’.


It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.


27 posted on 07/05/2008 4:14:12 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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