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To: P8riot
Your post truly is a Non-Sequitur, as all of those theories have been proven false. There is no absolute scientific proof that evolution occurs. So the debate must go on in order to be true to the scientific process.

If that is truly your position then it's you engaging in the non-sequitur and not I. There is a mountain of evidence supporting evolution, as tens of thousands of scientists have shown over the past 150 years. Your wild, and totally unsubstantiated, claim that there is 'no absolute scientific proof that evolution occurs' to the contrary notwithstanding.

But say for the sake of arguement that your claim is even partially true, then what? What absolute scientific evidence do you have of an intelligent designer? Or would you have us believe that if evolution is false then ID is true by default?

7 posted on 07/05/2008 5:57:07 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

“There is a mountain of evidence supporting evolution”

Of all this evidence, which is the strongest?


13 posted on 07/05/2008 6:11:48 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Liberalism is service to the self disguised as service to others.)
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To: Non-Sequitur; antiRepublicrat
There is a mountain of evidence supporting evolution,...

"Supporting" does not equal "proving." While I agree that the accepted interpretation of existing evidence supports evolution, it does not yet prove evolution.

Thus the need to open up discussion.

15 posted on 07/05/2008 6:14:25 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I applaud the Governor for his stand to allow all to be taught, as free people in a free nation.
When I a freshman took a course in Geology in the fall of 1953, I was astonded that the order of evolution was in harmony with the Bible’s order of creation, at the time I thought this was reasonable.
About 7 years later (1960) In my research, I read “Enspiration vs Evolution” by Dr. W. B. Riley, (copywrite 1923). He pointed out that in Darwin’s Theory it is stated over several hundred times, “we may well assume.” In the Holy Scriptures it is stated over and over, “thus saith the Lord.” (Shall we live on assumptions, or by every word of God?)
Dr. Riley also taught the results of teaching evolution as a fact, and the results of teaching creation. He said, those that are taught evolution, in lieu of creation, would turn to Athesism, Communism,and Anarcy. And that has, and is happening.
God’s word, and His creation have lasted thousands of years,
and our children (as well as adults) are taught “In the beginning God” and the the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and he became a living soul.” (Genesis 2:7)
Yes, “By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and the host of them by the breath of His mouth.” (Psalm 33:6)
A blessed result of teaching creation (God’s word) is given in Proverbs 16:6, “By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.”


41 posted on 07/05/2008 7:29:15 AM PDT by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward--Anonymous))
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To: Non-Sequitur
>There is no absolute scientific proof that evolution occurs...

There is a mountain of evidence supporting evolution...


You missed an important point, Non-Sequitur: "absolute scientific proof" is not a phrase that scientists use, it's an imaginary standard that creationists apply to theories they don't like. (Mere evidence is good enough for theories they do like, and popularity for their non-scientific ideas.)

It's hard to imagine what "absolute scientific proof" would be -- it's almost an oxymoron -- but here are a few other theories that can't clear that hurdle:

The germ theory of disease; there are strong correlations, but no real proof (and besides, some diseases aren't correlated with microbes, so there). The theory that stars are suns and the sun is a star; circumstantial evidence, no proof (and besides, some stars are different colors, so we can fuss with the definitions). The Round Earth Theory; LOTS of evidence but no absolute proof, it could be an illusion, we can refuse to understand the evidence, we can refuse to believe travellers' accounts. The theory that all human beings are mortal; massive inductive reasoning does not constitute proof.

If you have time on your hands you can play with the "my theory's been around a long time and many people still believe it" standard. Astrology anyone?
44 posted on 07/05/2008 7:37:29 AM PDT by xenophiles
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