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To: G.Mason
Something smells with this article.

Yes, because it's full of half truths and outright lies. See below.

Pay particular attention to Item 7 and Item 10 and Item 12 and Item 13 and Item 17 and Item 20 and Item 23. Read those items over thoroughly. Olofson had installed a 3-position M16 selector, which is a real no no. Whatever else was installed or modified internally is known only to the immediate participants.

A stock factory AR15 was modified with an M16 selector at the very least, and quite likely other parts changed or modified. This is a federal crime.

This is an issue that NOBODY concerned about this case will acknowledge or admit to. Instead, everyone goes into Hyper Rant Mode about Second Amendment issues and JBT's.

The sad fact is, he illegally modified an AR15 and loaned it out to some nimrod who didn't have enough sense to leave that third selector position alone at a public range.

Absolutists are in Full Meltdown Mode on most of the gun boards, and refuse to acknowledge that Olofson violated any laws.


14 posted on 07/04/2008 11:14:31 AM PDT by Dumpster Baby ( They told me that using the download page to download something was not something they anticipated)
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To: Dumpster Baby
Thank you Dumpster Baby

That really gave the info I was looking for.

Excellent


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18 posted on 07/04/2008 11:21:53 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Dumpster Baby

Hadn’t read the affadavit, thanks for posting it.

Couple notes: eBay has a pretty strict ‘no-firearms’ policy, so that part of it is BS. ‘other firearms’ including the satellite-killing ‘50 caliber sniper rifle’ are irrelevant to the complaint. It’s ‘vise grips’, not ‘vice grips’ - one would think they would have someone with a good command of the language proofread those complaints before entering them...

Anyway, the guy was not too bright messing with an AR and putting ANY FA components in it. Not to mention loaning it out. He should get a fine and lose the firearm, but 30 months is (IMO) a little out of line with the ‘crime’ especially when you see violent criminals doing far less time.


22 posted on 07/04/2008 11:28:32 AM PDT by xDGx
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To: Dumpster Baby

Thanks for clearing this up... it appears that the guy really was a jerk and was just asking for it...


29 posted on 07/04/2008 12:15:52 PM PDT by oldoverholt
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To: Dumpster Baby
Absolutists are in Full Meltdown Mode on most of the gun boards, and refuse to acknowledge that Olofson violated any laws.

He didn't violate any laws that are in conformance to the Second Article of Amendment to the Constitution.

But notice two that the third position is supposed to be 3 round burst, yet when tested it emptied the magazine. That's the symptom of slam fire, not controllable automatic fire, let alone 3 round burst fire.

What the affidavit doesn't mention is that the first test, with the gun properly lubricated and normal "hard" primers, the gun would not fire more than one shot with a single trigger pull. Then the second BATFE test, with heavy lubrication and soft primers produced the 20 round burst behavior. Again the sign of slam fire or similar malfunction.

He may have violated BATFE regulations, if he put in an M-16 selector, but that alone does not make a weapon fire more than one round with a single pull of the trigger, the legal definition for a machine gun.

A stock factory AR15 was modified with an M16 selector at the very least, and quite likely other parts changed or modified.

Affidavit doesn't say that, and they had the gun to examine.

31 posted on 07/04/2008 12:17:22 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Dumpster Baby

Thank you for the informative post. I do remember the borrower was warned not to turn the selector to the third position. I didn’t know it has an installed M-16 selector.


38 posted on 07/04/2008 1:00:59 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: Dumpster Baby
A stock factory AR15 was modified with an M16 selector at the very least, and quite likely other parts changed or modified. This is a federal crime.

Lying to the MySpace computer servers is also a federal crime, according to one US Attorney.

That's quite a list, OTOH. I guess Olofson didn't understand that many federal agencies are staffed by a bunch of OCD whackjobs who have got a blank checkbook and a set of federal "laws" that's beginning to rival the federal tax code.

Oddly, some people, like Bill Clinton and William Jefferson, are immune to the voluminous federal legal smorgasbord...

50 posted on 07/04/2008 2:19:09 PM PDT by an amused spectator (corruptissima republica, plurimae leges)
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To: Dumpster Baby
An M-16 selector is not enough for it to go into a 3-round burst mode. The disconnecter and cam need to be there too. The manufacturer sold a number of rifles with the M-16 selector installed from the factory. This is perfectly legal as long as you don't have other M-16 fire control parts as well.

There was no "illegal" modification of this rifle. Period.

64 posted on 07/07/2008 8:50:48 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dumpster Baby
What?

Anyone think BATF wouldn't leap at a chance for a easy statistic without personal risk to themselves? (trust me I know BATF after a twenty year career as a LEO) Now a couple of ex-cons holed up in a cheap hotel room with a sawed off shotgun?

NAW

Too risky ... they'll be 'at training" should local LEO call for assistance in a case like above.

Totally worthless agency :^(

Summbuddy ought to ask them why they didn't file on a crooked sheriff with a stolen M-2 in his procession after he retired ***See Tidwell, Floyd for further details***

66 posted on 07/08/2008 10:36:12 AM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart)
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