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To: gogogodzilla
It’s a sellers market, what with everyone trying to outbid one another.

Great. So you think that a speculator forces the price up when they buy a contract. Then, as settlement date approaches, they sell the contract, but not to someone who might take delivery (that would reduce the possible buyers).

This "forced sale" to a limited set of possible buyers then has no impact on the price. Interesting idea about economics you've come up with.

69 posted on 07/06/2008 7:24:08 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are doom and gloomers, union members and liberals so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

It works like this:

I have $20, you have $20.

I use oil to make things, you do not.

I go to the seller (who only has one barrel for next month) and offer $5 for next month’s barrel.

You wager that, because I need the oil, you could bid $6 for the barrel and then make $8 off a quick reverse sale back to me.

So, because you’re there, I now have to bid $7. To which you bid $8. And so on, and so on.

Eventually, the price for the barrel *WILL* be $20. But only because you’ve finally realized that you won’t be able to sell me the oil at a profit if you’ve bought it at $20, because I only have $20.

But anything up to $19 is fair game.

Had you not done so, the price of the barrel would be $5, as I’d have been the only bidder.

Eliminate the speculator and you remove a significant portion of buyers in the world oil market. Reducing the number of buyers reduces prices.


70 posted on 07/06/2008 5:50:32 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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