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Why Bob Barr Is Not an Alternative
Stop the ACLU ^

Posted on 07/02/2008 2:04:13 PM PDT by mnehring

For conservatives unhappy with McCain as our candidate, I’ve heard a few mention Bob Barr as an alternative for their protest votes. Make sure you know who your voting for before you do so, and make sure if your protest is that of principle that you share the same principles with whom you pull the lever for. For some conservatives, Bob Barr’s teamwork with the ACLU to fight against the Patriot Act and the NSA’s terrorist surveillance program is enough to drop consideration. He has also sided with the ACLU on the immigration issue, opposing local law enforcement from helping to enforce immigration law.

However, for those that lean a little more towards the libertarian side, Alexander Brunk has a list of reasons to question Barr on these principles.

Certainly, it seems ironic that the man who was once congress’s greatest champion of the “War on Drugs” is now the leader of a fringe party devoted to opposing it. A man who rails against overspending in Washington himself voted for No Child Left Behind, which libertarians hate. A man who was one of the main movers and shakers in the impeachment trial of President Clinton, which most libertarians opposed. A man who voted for the Patriot Act, but has now spent the last five years speaking out against it.



TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aclu; bobbarr; liberaltarian; libertarian; lp; professionalspoilers; sideshowbob
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1 posted on 07/02/2008 2:04:13 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling
No thanks Barr. Tangoing with the ACLU makes you unelectable on this side of the aisle.
2 posted on 07/02/2008 2:12:36 PM PDT by jrooney (Obama's mentor says God Da*n America. That explains Obama's refusal to put his hand over his heart.)
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To: mnehrling

Ok, I’ll just write in.......


3 posted on 07/02/2008 2:15:38 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (I would rather be water-boarded than vote for John McCain......)
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To: mnehrling

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

Some old naive dead guy apparently wrote that...


4 posted on 07/02/2008 2:21:29 PM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: mnehrling

I think you can say that Barr’s positions are ‘evolving,’ just like McCain’s. /s/


5 posted on 07/02/2008 2:23:19 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: FFranco

Maybe devolving is a better word to use for both of them.


6 posted on 07/02/2008 2:25:00 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

Bob Barr would be our Ralph Nader or Ross Perot this year, but would give us worse than Bill Clinton!


7 posted on 07/02/2008 2:28:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only the Marxist Obama can!)
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To: mgstarr

That dead old naive guy also said “Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.”

Both have about the same relevance in this thread.


8 posted on 07/02/2008 2:30:47 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mgstarr

And that relates to this nutcase hypocrite Barr how...?


9 posted on 07/02/2008 2:34:06 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Michael Steele for VP)
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To: mnehrling

I guess the only option then is not voting at all.


10 posted on 07/02/2008 2:34:56 PM PDT by microgood
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Barr is a non factor, unlike Nader or Perot. Both of those pulled almost exclusively from one side or the the other. Barr seems to have factions from both the left and the right, so you would have a wash with him. The other third party nuts we have this go around are really non factors. Baldwin is so nutty he will be lucky to get 1/10th of a percent. The Greens have no money this year as most of their minions seem to be falling in behind Obama.
11 posted on 07/02/2008 2:36:02 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: microgood
Not voting is never an option. All our choices stink this year, especially the third party choices. BUT, let's get real, we are dealing with politicians, by definition, it is always the lesser of two evils. I will be voting against the worst of the two and I'm not ashamed, especially the more we learn about Obama and how he has been running his campaign.
12 posted on 07/02/2008 2:37:56 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

I wonder how Bob Barr’s appearance in the Borat movie is going to work out for him.


13 posted on 07/02/2008 2:40:40 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: mnehrling

Actually the quote was about wine but no matter.

I don’t support Barr but I find elements of the Patriot Act and FISA to be Orwellian and terryfying in the hands of a Democrat president. From that standpoint the first Franklin quote is entirely relevant.


14 posted on 07/02/2008 2:41:22 PM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: mnehrling
Not voting is never an option. All our choices stink this year, especially the third party choices. BUT, let's get real, we are dealing with politicians, by definition, it is always the lesser of two evils.

Since I live in a dark blue state (Washington), which will go to Obama, not voting is a real choice. Certainly voting for McCain is a waste, so why not vote third party and send a message? In states like Montana and Idaho the libertarian vote is increasing substantially and it may someday send a message to one or the other party that freedom does matter to people.
15 posted on 07/02/2008 2:43:27 PM PDT by microgood
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To: wideminded

OMG, I completely forgot about that. IF Barr was a factor, any of his opponents could just run that clip and it would be over for him.

http://www.chbn.com/Clip.aspx?key=8BF2D6BFC8CACD0C


16 posted on 07/02/2008 2:43:38 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling
I will probably change my screen name. I officially renounced the Libertarian party a few weeks ago after they nominated Barr. They have consistently been the only real party that had a snowballs chance in hell of taking on the ‘Rat/’Publican establishment and blow it every election with wackos or bores. This year they committed political blaspheme and heresy by nominating Barr. I'm done with them.
17 posted on 07/02/2008 2:43:38 PM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" White Guy)
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To: Sybeck1

Can’t stand McCain but don’t want to help Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., the charismatic, messianic Magic Negro, either.

Study the field. Whoever is over to the left of Barack, be it Ralph Nader or any of a number of other really fever-swamp left winger radicals, select one and give him (or her) your wholehearted endorsement. Take no halfway measures here. The goal is to deprive Obama of at least as much support as is being deprived of John McCain.

To vote for Bob Barr as a protest against McCain, is to essentially GIVE one-half a vote to Obama. But if the shift is made to vote the other side of the spectrum (in just this one race, for the Presidency), this destroys a little bit of the plurality that Obama would pick up, and deprives them both of half a vote.

Of course, you may still split the rest of your ticket for the INDIVIDUAL candidate whom you consider best for the job at hand. Sometimes, it won’t be the Republican.


18 posted on 07/02/2008 2:44:20 PM PDT by alloysteel (A taxpayer voting for Obama - is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Perot gave us Clinton but Bush gave us Perot when he dissed the Reagan Democrats concern with their jobs.


19 posted on 07/02/2008 2:44:58 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: mnehrling

Barr is far from perfect, but I would take him over McCain/Obama any day.


20 posted on 07/02/2008 2:45:14 PM PDT by PastorTony
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