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(FBI Director) Mueller: Gun Ruling A Hazard For Colleges
WMUR ^ | July 1, 2008

Posted on 07/01/2008 6:03:09 PM PDT by xjcsa

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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Ruby Ridge involved ATF, U.S. Marshalls, and FBI. It was an FBI sniper who shot the mother, holding her baby, in the head.

The entire operation was a bogus one created by the ATF. If I remember right a jury found Randy Weaver not guilty of all charges except for failure to appear. He later sued and the Federal Government paid him and his family several million dollars.

The FBI was caught red handed violating their own policy and probably the law. The agents were given a reprimand which is normally a serious career killer, but in this case they were promoted months later.

This was under the Bush Sr. administration.

61 posted on 07/02/2008 5:49:00 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: xjcsa

RED ALERT.

Please note that not only did the SCOTUS leave the door open to gun licensing, but now the gun control crowd are trying to turn licensing into a meme.

And not just concealed carry licensing, but licensing of all guns.

You can bet your bottom dollar that there is going to be a major push, based on the false “axiom” that somehow the SCOTUS has directed that guns be licensed.

“Mueller said communities now will have to decide their own licensing programs.”

Oh really. AND WHY IS THAT?

Individual States, NOT “communities” have authority to require the licensing of concealed carry weapons.

But NOBODY. No “community”, No State, and NOT the federal government “HAS” to license firearms.

DO NOT let them get away with it.


62 posted on 07/02/2008 7:38:39 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yarddog

As I recall also, the original charge for the reason they went out to his place was because he sold a shotgun to an undercover ATF agent and then the undercover agent asked him to saw off the barrel (can anyone say entrapment?) which he did.

So the ATF sent their guys up to his place snooping around all because of selling a sawed off shotgun. It was a slow day at the office so they had to go out and make up a crime.


63 posted on 07/02/2008 8:29:37 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
It is hard to know if all the facts one sees on the internet are true but as near as I have been able to determine, Weaver refused to saw off the barrel several times before finally agreeing to when he was desperate for money.

I have also read that he didn't even saw it off to an illegal length depending on how one measured the barrel.

They arrested him btw by pretending to be a disabled motorist and when he stopped to help them they got him.

They really wanted to get some White separatists who Weaver was friendly with and wanted to use Weaver as a stooge after they trapped him. When he refused that is when they really went after him.

The whole thing was about as dirty as it gets.

64 posted on 07/02/2008 8:47:12 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Please note that not only did the SCOTUS leave the door open to gun licensing...

Sort of. Scalia's opinion pointedly "(did) not address" licensing, as Heller did not challenge it. To me, it almost read like they were ready to strike down the licensing concept too, if Heller had given them a chance to do so.

65 posted on 07/02/2008 8:54:28 AM PDT by xjcsa (Has anyone seen my cornballer?)
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To: wastedyears
He’s got a vest on, which doesn’t look like it has armor in it; I can’t see any MP5 mag pouches; he’s got a pen-thickness scope mounted on it, flashlight, magclamp; and his balaclava is covering his eyes.

I’d rather go in alone that have this ya-hoo cover my six.

And the safety of his weapon is off and he's not ready to engage anything.

66 posted on 07/02/2008 8:59:52 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Beware the fury of the man that cannot find hope or justice.)
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(FBI Director) Mueller: Gun Ruling A Hazard For Colleges

How so, Mueller? The shooting sprees that have occurred on campuses happened while these handgun bans were in effect, how is confirming the right of the people, secured by the Constitution, going to make things a hazard now, as though there wasn't one previously??

67 posted on 07/02/2008 9:04:07 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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He said with his grandchildren going to college, he hopes "those campuses will be weapons-free."

I'm sure any potential killers will leave their guns at home when they hit your grandkid's campus boundary, Bob, just like the signs demand.

This clueless moron needs to be running the Brady Campaign, not the FBI!

68 posted on 07/02/2008 10:34:24 AM PDT by Gritty (The places where we can't concealed carry is a shopping list for a madman - Suzanna Hupp)
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To: Centurion2000

I can’t tell what position the safety switch is in.


69 posted on 07/02/2008 11:54:46 AM PDT by wastedyears (Obama is a Texas Post Turtle.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Lon Horiuchi was FBI not a convenience store clerk.


70 posted on 07/02/2008 5:26:36 PM PDT by magslinger (Infidel, American type, quantity one (1) each.)
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Lon Horiuchi was FBI not a convenience store clerk.

He's probably in a senior leadership position now for his "good" work at the Federal Bureau of Incineration.

71 posted on 07/03/2008 3:54:12 AM PDT by DocH (hillary, hussein, and juan - what kind of choice is THAT? God help us.)
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To: xjcsa

Now I’m really glad I dropped out of the FBI SA program. I was in the application process and learned you had to serve 5 years at a major field office. Cincinnati is NOT a major field office. I already gave 10 years of my life to my country. No thanks.


72 posted on 07/03/2008 4:14:51 AM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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