Posted on 07/01/2008 10:40:58 AM PDT by wintertime
We must be willing to redefine education. What education looks like now is an artificial construct. It was not created by people who knew or understood children or teens. It was created by bureaucrats and special interests who wanted to control children and teens.
I talked with a young lady the other day – 14-years-old – who loves horses and aims to own stables and teach riding, among other things. She’s been working with horses since she was five. She’s good enough now that she “breaks” new ones and retrains ones facing changes in the use they’re being put to. She knows her stuff.
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Then there’s her other life – public school. She failed her end-of-year math exam by three points, so she’s going to summer school. She’ll have to pass the test to move on to the next grade. I’ve talked with her. She’s smart and highly competent – just not especially interested in algebra. She’s more accomplished than many adults (even ones who did pass algebra). But she has four more years of school to go, during which time she’ll have to pass endless tests and divert her efforts from what she knows she’ll devote her life to.
(snip) I get many calls a month from parents of teens who simply haven’t managed to fit into the school mold. They’re smart kids, often kids with serious interests they’re prevented from pursuing because so many adults in their lives are running them through the testing/counseling/therapy wringer.
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In order to redefine education, we will have to engage in some self-liberation, for most of us have a very hard time letting go (I mean really letting go) of the idea that the state knows some secret about education that we don’t and that if we defy their model we just might be sorry.
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They are almost always homeschoolers. And....Aren't you the first to point out that not everyone can homeschool?
It was created by bureaucrats and special interests socialists who wanted to control children and teens.
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I call them communists and Marxists. That is what they really are.
There are some who'd like to dispute that, but I believe you are correct.
There was a recent thread about the new version of the SAT the other day, which said that adding an essay didn't make it predict success any better, but it's still a good predictor nonetheless.
>> And the ONE and ONLY area where libs support individual rights is consequence free sexual behavior choices.
Not sure I’d go quite that far. They support the individual right to burn the flag, submerge a crucifix in urine, spit on soldiers, abort infants, protest American happiness and success ... etc.
Ultimately, they support your individual right to be as repugnant as you can be ... free of judgment or scorn from religion, government or individuals who might find you a reprehensible excuse for a human being.
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Thank you **very** much.
I retired last year, but I will share this with my fellow professionals.
In my state, students can do joint enrollment at local colleges during their junior and/or senior years, with tuition paid for by the state. The college courses count for high school graduation credit AND for college credit.
And the last time you said this I told you the same thing, I am not doing your homework for you.
NO proof, No documentation, the only thing we can assume is that it does not exist.
Until YOU support this wild claim stop making it.
YOU need to provide proof of this or retract your wild claims.
Thoughtful Freepers understand that doing a Google search on the words, “Truant and Police”, will bring up thousands of examples where police ( armed) were used to enforce the government school will.
I am certain they are scratching their heads wondering about your post.
Aren't you often among to first to point out on these threads that not everyone can homeschool?
That's why I suggested taking CLEP as well. They may call it SAT II tests now...
And next year I will be getting certified to teach one of those courses, and the year after i should be getting certified to teach a second.
Just another dedicated public school professional going beyond the call of duty at my own expense to provide for the students entrusted to me by parents who care enough to provide the very best for their children.
Home schooled children are not eligible for this are they?
My children are grown now, but this seems to be a good suggestion for those currently homeschooing. I will pass this information on to my children who are now homeschooling their children.
Thanks!!!
Honest Freepers can provide documentation when it requested.
If you can't provide the documentation what does that make you?
I guess we can connect the dots.
In order to be eligible for the class within Cal State L.A.’s Pre-Accredited College Enrollment Program, Daanyaal passed an exam and also completed an interview.
True, she’s still young. We know she loves horses and that’s great. But it doesn’t mean that she will make a career out of working with horses. At age 14 it’s just too soon to know that.
Can you give some examples?
By the way, I can only guess that you were rushed when you read my post, but I was not responding to anything you said.
I was responding to a post by SoftballMominVA. She had been discussing the use of various tests by homeschoolers and others.
>> There are children by the millions stuck in government schools who are just as bright and similarly talented as my son,..but...these institutionalized children are artificially held back merely to serve as widgets in providing jobs to government employees in the education-industrial-complex.
Congratulations to you and your child. Impressive. Nonetheless, home-school parents tend to think that their way is the only way to a quality education. It isn’t. I am a product of public education, and am relatively successful, well educated, and well adjusted. I graduated public school only 11 years ago — so this isn’t as if I grew up in the 50’s.
Like home-schools, public school can be a mixed bag ... there are bad schools, and good ones. Generally, the schools are as bad or as good as the parents demand. In low income areas, they tend to suck because parents tend not to care — i. e. they are uninvolved. Because the parents are uninvolved, the kids are poorly civilized, and good teachers won’t teach in a war-zone. Parental involvement necessarily leads to better behaved students, which leads to better teachers, which leads to better educated students.
However, there are public schools with involved parents, good teachers, and exceptionally well educated and well behaved children. For instance, the schools in suburban Houston are quite good.
Home-schools can be bad as well. I’ve heard of home-schools where the parents were hippies and took their kids out of public school because it was indoctrinating their kids with authoritarianism and imperialism. The school was set up as some kind of commune ... and the kids were dumb as bricks.
Ultimately, its all about parenting.
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