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UN Investigator Blasts U.S. Justice System
Asia One ^ | 06.30.2008 | Thalif Deen

Posted on 06/30/2008 5:42:21 PM PDT by Coffee200am

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To: Timocrat
He's an Aussie? Bloody great!

"Oy Alson! Go stick your head up a dead bear's bum, ya plonker!"

Why we allow dag's like this fella into the country, is beyond me. Total waste of time and money.

41 posted on 06/30/2008 7:13:28 PM PDT by sofaman (Moses dragged us through the desert for 40 years to bring us to the one place in the ME with no oil.)
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To: vanishing liberty
"But what about death for the not guilty, as sometimes happens. Is that cool?"

"You’re not saying that private security contracters who commit unlawful killings shouldn’t be prosecuted, are you?"

Your name says 'vanishing liberty', but you sound more like a vanishing troll. Better yet, just vanish.

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42 posted on 06/30/2008 7:38:20 PM PDT by IYellAtMyTV (Workday Forecast--Increasing pressure towards afternoon. Rum likely by evening.)
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To: Coffee200am
"Indeed, while I was in Texas, the conviction of yet another person on death row was overturned by the Court of Criminal Appeals," Alston said.

While in this case DNA testing ultimately prevented the execution of an innocent man, Alston said, others may have been less fortunate.

"In Texas, I met a range of officials and others who acknowledged that innocent people might have been executed," he said, adding the problem is that a criminal justice system with recognized flaws that the government refuses to address will always be capable of mistakes.

"When I raised this issue with federal and state government officials, I was met with indifference or flat denial," said Alston, who noted that many officials wrote off the results of studies showing racial disparity as being biased because the officials believed they were written by researchers with anti-death penalty views...

I'm voting for indiffernce.

I like Ron White's explanation on the Texas death penalty.

43 posted on 06/30/2008 7:42:21 PM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops by accusing them of war crimes.)
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To: Coffee200am
"Indeed, while I was in Texas, the conviction of yet another person on death row was overturned by the Court of Criminal Appeals," Alston said.

While in this case DNA testing ultimately prevented the execution of an innocent man, Alston said, others may have been less fortunate.

"In Texas, I met a range of officials and others who acknowledged that innocent people might have been executed," he said, adding the problem is that a criminal justice system with recognized flaws that the government refuses to address will always be capable of mistakes.

"When I raised this issue with federal and state government officials, I was met with indifference or flat denial," said Alston, who noted that many officials wrote off the results of studies showing racial disparity as being biased because the officials believed they were written by researchers with anti-death penalty views...

I'm voting for indiffernce.

I like Ron White's explanation on the Texas death penalty.

44 posted on 06/30/2008 7:48:15 PM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops by accusing them of war crimes.)
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To: Coffee200am
"Philip Alston, United Nations special rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary, or arbitrary executions"

Hey Phil, Phuk you.

45 posted on 06/30/2008 7:51:17 PM PDT by IYellAtMyTV (Workday Forecast--Increasing pressure towards afternoon. Rum likely by evening.)
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To: Coffee200am

I hear the UN likes the Zimbabwe example.

Machete first, trial later, hang the corpse.


46 posted on 06/30/2008 7:51:45 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Oh my! Disagreeing is now snide and a personal attack. How Obambi!)
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To: MurryMom
After a two-week fact-finding tour of U.S. prison and detention facilities, a UN human rights investigator has blasted the administration of President George W. Bush for a rash of shortcomings in the country's flawed justice system and continued violations of the rule of law.

Wow. We needed this goofball during the *Crinton administration - eh?

47 posted on 06/30/2008 7:57:45 PM PDT by Libloather (June is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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48 posted on 06/30/2008 7:58:48 PM PDT by IYellAtMyTV (Workday Forecast--Increasing pressure towards afternoon. Rum likely by evening.)
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To: Coffee200am

Any criticism from a UN nutjob is a badge of honor.


49 posted on 06/30/2008 7:59:41 PM PDT by G Larry (Fight B.O. with RIGHT GUARD! Vote McCain!)
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To: vanishing liberty

“Cool”?


50 posted on 06/30/2008 8:02:37 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Coffee200am

IIRC, blacks are executed at a lesser rate than their murder rate would imply if there were no racism against whites.


51 posted on 06/30/2008 8:07:10 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama is hiding something about his birth- but what?)
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To: Patrick1

Yes, his mind was made up from reading the leftist list that was given to him.

And yes, where are the investigations of Cuba, Sudan, North Korea, Iran, UN Peacekeepers in Africa?

UN—OUT Useless no-goods


52 posted on 06/30/2008 8:12:18 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: G Larry

Damned straight, and WELL said!


53 posted on 06/30/2008 8:21:00 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: johniegrad
Why do we even allow this type of visit?

Because we hope he stops by Rahway State and makes a love connection with one of the Scared Straight guys.

54 posted on 06/30/2008 8:29:35 PM PDT by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: Coffee200am
Alston, a professor at the New York University School of Law and an outspoken critic of human rights abuses worldwide...

Worldwide? Really? A UN "expert" on human rights abuses worldwide. Well, he was certainly concerned about Darfur. In 2005, he said:

The following joint statement was issued today in Geneva by 15 human rights experts: Emmanuel Akwei Addo, Independent Expert on the situation of human rights in the Sudan; Philip Alston, Special Rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions...(et al)..."“We are gravely concerned about the ongoing violations of human rights and humanitarian law in the Darfur region of Sudan, many of which constitute serious crimes under international law, and we call upon the international community to take effective measures to end the violations on a basis of utmost urgency. The conflict in Darfur, which Secretary-General Kofi Annan has called 'little short of hell on earth', has already taken an untold number of civilian lives and is estimated to have caused the forced internal displacement of 1.8 million persons, as well as forcing more than 200,000 persons to flee across the border to neighbouring Chad. Despite efforts by the international community to commit troops and assistance to the region, the violence continues virtually unabated in a context of wholesale impunity, and the threat of famine is looming.
The violations in Darfur have been staggering in scale and harrowing in nature. Extrajudicial executions, rape and other forms of sexual violence, torture, enforced disappearances, scorching of villages and forced displacement of civilians have taken place in a widespread and systematic manner and continue on a daily basis. "

It goes on at some length. So two years later, what does the sanctimonious Alston tell us about what happened in Darfur? I hope you're sitting down. This:

The Darfur Commission as a Model for Future Responses to Crisis Situations - PHILIP ALSTON - New York University - School of Law - Journal of International Criminal Justice, Vol. 3, Issue 3, pp. 600-607, 2005

A "model" indeed? Well, heaven knows the UN got the job done there...well, all right, people are still dying but they got some dynamite reports out of it. In one of which our boy finally comes to criticize Sudan, but not, oh, my no, not the UN:

UN Rebukes Sudan Over Human Rights Abuses in Darfur

In short, our boy is long on talk and very, very short on results. Well, no results at all, to be accurate.

So what of this investigation? It isn't just the U.S. being investigated, it is?

The 27 states that have so far [Sept, 2007] failed to agree to visits range from Security Council members, such as China, Russia and the United States, to countries like El Salvador, Kenya, Thailand, Israel, Uzbekistan and Venezuela. “The fact that 90 percent of countries identified as warranting a country visit have failed to cooperate with the system — and that the (Human Rights) Council has done nothing in response — is a major indictment of the system,” said Philip Alston, the U.N. special rapporteur on extra-judicial, summary or arbitrary executions. SOURCE

Well, that was an entire year ago and Alston did just apologize for that accusation, didn't he? Uh, no, he didn't.

Here is a perfect example of everything that is utterly wrong with the UN - a self-righteous professional poseur who cannot seem to differentiate between the massacre of half a million people in Darfur and the situation he found, or failed to be presented evidence for, in the United States. The only constant is the UN, beyond criticism itself and useful only insofar as it functions to blur the distinction between mass murder and suspect prison practice. This is not moral righteousness, it is moral failure, cowardice, incompetence, and a level of pure hypocrisy that is absoutely breathtaking.

55 posted on 06/30/2008 8:38:54 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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It's supposed to be funny, right?

Absolutely!
Anybody who can't laugh at a pantload like Alston desperately needs a vacation.

56 posted on 06/30/2008 8:43:08 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: vanishing liberty

50 million aborted babies in America were not guilty of anything more than being an “inconvenience”.


57 posted on 06/30/2008 9:33:51 PM PDT by weegee
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To: IYellAtMyTV

“Your name says ‘vanishing liberty’, but you sound more like a vanishing troll. Better yet, just vanish.”

America stands for freedom and justice. It has always been a beacon of liberty for the world. This is a good thing, isn’t it? It is not patriotic to support American contractors who kill unlawfully; it is against everything America stands for. That’s why I asked the question. I’m sure you don’t feel that way.

The death penalty for the guilty is fine. The death penalty for those who are not guilty is not fine. Many found guilty of murder have been released years later when DNA tests or other evidence proved they were not guilty. It does no good for the victims when the state executes innocent people. It merely closes the file forever, leaving the actual killers free to kill some more. Is this an unreasonable point of view?


58 posted on 06/30/2008 10:04:23 PM PDT by vanishing liberty
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