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The real story behind the gay pride issue at St. Joan
Minneapolis Star Tribune ^
| June 29, 2008
| KATHERINE KERSTEN
Posted on 06/30/2008 3:46:03 AM PDT by Caleb1411
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posted on
06/30/2008 3:46:03 AM PDT
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Caleb1411
To: wagglebee; Salvation; rhema; MplsSteve
The controversy at St. Joan of Arc is part of a larger picture. When the gay rights movement emerged several decades ago, its leaders asked only for tolerance -- a live-and-let-live attitude on the part of the larger society. Today, the movement increasingly demands both approval of and conformity to its creed. More and more, it labels all dissent -- even that based on religious conviction -- as "hateful."
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posted on
06/30/2008 3:48:25 AM PDT
by
Caleb1411
("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own." G. K. C)
To: Caleb1411
In an e-mail to the group's members, he characterized the archbishop's decision as "yet another volley of dehumanizing spiritual violence directed at GLBT persons and their families." Oh, they love melodrama and speechmaking don't they?
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posted on
06/30/2008 3:50:22 AM PDT
by
relictele
To: Caleb1411
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posted on
06/30/2008 4:17:47 AM PDT
by
clee1
(We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
To: relictele
Their anti-Catholic diatribes are coming from their deep, spiritual anger with the Church (and it comes from their own guilt). They WANT the Church to change its more than 2000 year old teaching about the sin of the homosexual lifestyle......so that they will be approved and no longer feel the guilt. That will never happen. We can only pray for them.
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posted on
06/30/2008 4:19:20 AM PDT
by
SumProVita
("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
To: SumProVita
There is quite a bit of hate-filled vitriol spilling over into the comments section. Most of it is aimed at the author, some at the Catholic Church. They’re trying countertransference of blame here—trying to single out past wrongs of the church. It’s a very immature coping mechanism.
These little darlings are spilling forth a hate they wouldn’t have dreamed of even 5-years ago.
The Church need only stand firm against these sinners. Their message and its inspiration is all too plainly clear.
To: CaspersGh0sts
“Their message and its inspiration is all too plainly clear.”
Exactly!
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posted on
06/30/2008 4:40:07 AM PDT
by
SumProVita
("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
To: Caleb1411
Last week, controversy erupted when Archbishop John Nienstedt informed St. Joan of Arc Catholic Church in Minneapolis that it could not hold a gay pride prayer service in its sanctuary. The service -- held for several years in conjunction with the annual Twin Cities Gay Pride festival -- celebrates the gay identity. Does this mean they have actually held this sham in their sanctuary before? And they say that the Archbishop informing the church that they cannot hold the gay pride prayer service "controversial". The controversy should have occured when they first held such a service in the church.
To: CaspersGh0sts; Caleb1411
There is quite a bit of hate-filled vitriol spilling over into the comments section. Most of it is aimed at the author, some at the Catholic Church. Theyre trying countertransference of blame heretrying to single out past wrongs of the church. Its a very immature coping mechanism. Virtually everything Kersten writes in the Minneapolis Star Tribune causes consternation among people who'd like to be a moral law unto themselves. Gays aren't the only ones who go into high dudgeon at her writings. Everyone who's abridged the Bible into two words -- "Judge not" -- takes offense at Kersten's columns.
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posted on
06/30/2008 4:57:46 AM PDT
by
rhema
("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
To: Caleb1411
The service celebrates the gay identity. Celebrating Sodom and Gomorrah. I can't imagine why the Archbishop objected!
To: Caleb1411
characterized the archbishop's decision as "yet another volley of dehumanizing spiritual violence directed at GLBT persons and their families." Does anyone feel like they have woken up in some kind of Stalinist nightmare? If Obama is elected we will see show trials for "homophobes"?
To: relictele
“the archbishop’s decision as “yet another volley of dehumanizing spiritual violence directed at GLBT persons and their families.””
except for the source of the violence he’s correct in his observation.
To: montag813
The fact that they shy away from identifying themselves as homosexual, having adopted the word “gay” tells me that they know “homosexual” acts are wrong.
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posted on
06/30/2008 5:15:08 AM PDT
by
maica
(Peace is the Aftermath of Victory)
To: Caleb1411; All
OK maybe someone here can clear this up for me:
“a gay pride prayer service”
WHO WOULD THEY BE PRAYING TO, EXACTLY?
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posted on
06/30/2008 5:21:21 AM PDT
by
TheRobb7
(Mutiny at the Convention: The Last, Best Hope for Conservatives in '08)
To: Caleb1411
What have the mentally ill got to be “proud” about? They should be getting help!
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06/30/2008 5:51:52 AM PDT
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JimRed
("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: maica
The fact that they shy away from identifying themselves as homosexual, having adopted the word gay tells me that they know homosexual acts are wrong.An excellent observation. A tip o' my hat to you.
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06/30/2008 6:38:03 AM PDT
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To: Caleb1411
Pride goeth before destruction...
-- Proverbs 16:18
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posted on
06/30/2008 6:45:35 AM PDT
by
XR7
To: Caleb1411
That's different. Usually they get their little thrill from dressing up as nuns.
the robes of an archbishop, miter and all.
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posted on
06/30/2008 7:22:12 AM PDT
by
DManA
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